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Old 04-05-2007, 09:39 PM   #16
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they reason y the knicks are having the losing stretch is because the dont have crawford, q and lee.throughout this losing stretch the are barely scoring points. the only way they are scoring alot of points is if marbury scores 30 to 40 point or if curry really goes off. people cant tell me they are not missing these guys. if those guys were still there they would have either that 7th or 8th spot.

youre right, if we didnt have those injuries, we probably would be in the 7th or 8th slot. however injuries are apart of the game and a lot of other teams would be in a different position if they didnt have injuries as well.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:22 PM   #17
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can anymore people play the injury card, we were losing games long before we ever had injuries, hello all teams have them, the heat lost one of the top 5 players in the league and how are they doing since, they dont lose anymore, the nets had injuries, all teams do, this excuse is so played out right now.

Very true. Injuries are no excuse. That card is waaaay played out for the Knicks and the fans. Remember when Patrick went down and the Knicks still made the Finals? They didn't use that as a crutch and they played their hearts out. They lost but their were no excuses.
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:06 PM   #18
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can anymore people play the injury card, we were losing games long before we ever had injuries, hello all teams have them, the heat lost one of the top 5 players in the league and how are they doing since, they dont lose anymore, the nets had injuries, all teams do, this excuse is so played out right now.

those other teams didnt lose 3 key guys for a long stretch. u sayin all teams have injures. yea all teams have injures but not like the knicks have had injures. and u sayin the knicks were losing before they had the injures but can u say they were losing like this. there are now like 12 games under 500. now answer this question were they 12 games under 500 before the injures, no they wasnt. if u was watchin the games u would see that they are lacking scorin right now. the knicks at one time was like second in rebounding now there are at 6th. at one time the knicks were scoring like 100 points a game now there are like 97-98. so dont say that injures dont play a part.
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:27 PM   #19
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The Knicks were below .500 before the rash of injuries. And it wasn't one or two under either.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:32 AM   #20
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those other teams didnt lose 3 key guys for a long stretch. u sayin all teams have injures. yea all teams have injures but not like the knicks have had injures. and u sayin the knicks were losing before they had the injures but can u say they were losing like this. there are now like 12 games under 500. now answer this question were they 12 games under 500 before the injures, no they wasnt. if u was watchin the games u would see that they are lacking scorin right now. the knicks at one time was like second in rebounding now there are at 6th. at one time the knicks were scoring like 100 points a game now there are like 97-98. so dont say that injures dont play a part.


they were 6 7 games under 500 before they had any injuries there hightwater mark of the year was 5 games under 500, its not like they were 10 games over before. do the knicks have anyone on the injury list as good as wade, the nets lost there 2nd and 3rd leading scorers and neither one of those teams or there fans complained. the warriors lost davis and richardson, the rockets lost ming for like half the season, injuries are not the reason this team is in the position they are in.
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Old 04-06-2007, 06:42 AM   #21
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they were 6 7 games under 500 before they had any injuries there hightwater mark of the year was 5 games under 500, its not like they were 10 games over before. do the knicks have anyone on the injury list as good as wade, the nets lost there 2nd and 3rd leading scorers and neither one of those teams or there fans complained. the warriors lost davis and richardson, the rockets lost ming for like half the season, injuries are not the reason this team is in the position they are in.

Cosigned. There is really no reason to harp on this anymore. The Knicks had dug a hole before the injuries. They lost plenty of games with last minute stupid decisions. They began the season falling behind by double digits every game. They don't hit free throws down the stetch (although they are one of the leaders in attempts), and they are one of the league leaders in turnovers. This team is in it's position because of their collective poor play. Injuries are merely the icing. The cake was already baked.
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Maybe next year?(starts to cry)
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they were 6 7 games under 500 before they had any injuries there hightwater mark of the year was 5 games under 500, its not like they were 10 games over before. do the knicks have anyone on the injury list as good as wade, the nets lost there 2nd and 3rd leading scorers and neither one of those teams or there fans complained. the warriors lost davis and richardson, the rockets lost ming for like half the season, injuries are not the reason this team is in the position they are in.

Agreed. Of course the injuries hurt, but that is no excuse. Even after the injuries, we still had the two best players on our team in Curry and Starbury. Injuries are a Thomas excuse along with the no foul calls on Starbury, even though we shoot more free throws than any team in the league.

We loose games because we don't play defense, we don't hit free throws and we don't have a high basketball IQ.

Although some players are better defensive players than others, defense is really mainly heart and effort. Free throw shooting is just embarassing. If you are in the NBA you have to be able to hit free throws, even if you are the 15th guy on the bench.
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:33 AM   #25
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Maybe next year?(starts to cry)

How many times have the Knicks forced us to say that? Not for nothing but I wanted it this year. I'm tired of waiting. You guys want to know what is a real season changing injury? Gilbert Arenas. The Wizard have no chance of doing anything in the postseason. Caron Butler is out too so that's two All-Stars right there. TWO ALL-STARS. We don't have none of those.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:35 PM   #26
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i see what yall sayin but its clear to see that they are seriously missin those other guys and if they had them i think things would be different.
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i see what yall sayin but its clear to see that they are seriously missin those other guys and if they had them i think things would be different.
With the payroll that they have even if they were 2 games under .500, it still would be unacceptable. this team is a joke, injured or not.
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How many times have the Knicks forced us to say that? Not for nothing but I wanted it this year. I'm tired of waiting.

I would have no problem waiting if there was some hope. If the Knicks brought in a respectable GM, like Rod Thorn or Jerry West or someone along those lines, and they said it was going to take 3-4 years to build this into a championship team. I could wait happly. But With Thomas and his crew of incompetents running the garden for the next four years, I have no confidence that we will be a contender anytime soon.
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