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Old 04-11-2007, 03:21 AM   #1
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Default OT: WTF...Black guy on CSPAN talks about killing white people

In the wake of Don Imus getting suspended heres a video of a guy who went on CSpan a while back and announces he wants to kill all white people. Where was Al Sharpton after this? Did this guy get picketed and fired? Shouldnt he be held to Sharptons same standards?

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Old 04-11-2007, 06:23 AM   #2
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Default Re: Don Imus gets suspended for racist remarks, what about this guy?

The guy in that vid doesn't have his own radio show and is obviously an extremist.



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Old 04-11-2007, 12:32 PM   #3
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Default Re: Don Imus gets suspended for racist remarks, what about this guy?

How could I have missed this on C-SPAN?!?!


Oh yeah, that channel is incredibly boring.

Extremist. That's all he is. Just like if the KKK were to be interviewed on a show. They'd ask for the same thing to be done to the Black community. I see nothing wrong with what he said. Don't like what he said? Boycott his book by not being it. I mean since he doesn't have a show that would be the only way I see fit to show some kind of opposition towards his mentality and opinions.

Good find, though.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:39 PM   #4
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Where was Al Sharpton after this?

Al Sharpton is a civil rights activist/politician..... his job is basically to look out for people who are opressed in some form or fashion and redress it publically
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Al Sharpton is a civil rights activist/politician..... his job is basically to look out for people who are opressed in some form or fashion and redress it publically

Read: Black people.

Al Sharpton is hypocritical piece of crap. He needs to apologize for his over-reaction to the Duke lacrosse scandal. He was calling for the heads of the players, coach, and university because they are white upper-class and supposedly had raped an innocent black woman trying to make tuition money. Now she has been revealed as a liar and this skank was just trying to exploit race and rape for money..so where is Sharpton's apology for his comments?

Accusations are easy, admitting fault is not, huh Al? What an as*hole.

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:06 PM   #6
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Default Re: Don Imus gets suspended for racist remarks, what about this guy?

Maybe it wasn't as big of a deal because someone who looks like they haven't bathed in 20 years isn't very threatening....wait, Imus hasn't bathed in 20 years either it would appear....well there goes that explanation.

Oh, here you go, millions of people listen to one, but not the other. That could be it.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:29 PM   #7
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Read: Black people.

Al Sharpton is hypocritical piece of crap. He needs to apologize for his over-reaction to the Duke lacrosse scandal. He was calling for the heads of the players, coach, and university because they are white upper-class and supposedly had raped an innocent black woman trying to make tuition money. Now she has been revealed as a liar and this skank was just trying to exploit race and rape for money..so where is Sharpton's apology for his comments?

Accusations are easy, admitting fault is not, huh Al? What an as*hole.

Like I just got done saying in another post.. Sharpton has helped others besides black folks.....

Him and Jesse stood up for and with terry shavio (sp?) and that family

They stood with Puerto ricans on their issues of the government putting and testing boming ranges on their land without their approval and he even wen to jail with them

those are off the top of my head...but there are more

and just because charges were dropped doesnt mean he owes anybody an apology... doesnt prove those kids are innocent, just proves they dont have a good case to prosecute
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Like I just got done saying in another post.. Sharpton has helped others besides black folks.....

Him and Jesse stood up for and with terry shavio (sp?) and that family

They stood with Puerto ricans on their issues of the government putting and testing boming ranges on their land without their approval and he even wen to jail with them

those are off the top of my head...but there are more

and just because charges were dropped doesnt mean he owes anybody an apology... doesnt prove those kids are innocent, just proves they dont have a good case to prosecute


Well if Sharpton doesn't owe an apology, why should this Imus douche have to? Sharpton didn't just wasnt an apology, he wanted Imus fired. I am not advocating Imus in any way, but Sharpton is a total hypocrit.

And yes, those men are innocent. That woman was a liar looking to make money and exploit racial tensions.
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Well if Sharpton doesn't owe an apology, why should this Imus douche have to? Sharpton didn't just wasnt an apology, he wanted Imus fired. I am not advocating Imus in any way, but Sharpton is a total hypocrit.

I dont see how sharpton is a hypocrite ... and Imus ripped a bunch of females who havent done anything but excel in school and in their sport....What was Imus reason for talking about them like that?

simply because they were black girls? Thats it? thats terrible

and Imus doesnt have to apologize if he doesnt want to...He's only doing this to curb the backlash against him....If no one had called him out,he would not have apologized

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And yes, those men are innocent. That woman was a liar looking to make money and exploit racial tensions.


unless you were there that night, you dont actually know what happened.. I personally think something did happen to her.....but I wasnt there, so I cant say, just like you cant
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Default Re: Don Imus gets suspended for racist remarks, what about this guy?

Sharpton and Jackson arent apologizing because they feel the Duke players are guilty of wrongdoing. And since the Duke players arent saying anything and just letting the DNA evidence clear them...they feel something went down.

I bolded the text in the article...to give you an idea of how Jessie Jackson views the case and the individiuals involved. As far as he is concerned the players have had a history of offences in the past and one emailed a racial emial after the incident. Now to ask why Sharpton and Jackson arent apologizing and comparing it to Imus and why he shouldnt have to apologize is silly.

I'm not taking sides on this issue but what I am doing is laying out the reasons why you are asking for apologies and not getting them. This is why...they feel the Duke players did something wrong that night and wont fess up. Whether you agree/disagree is on you.


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“Divorced Mother Of Two, Working Way Through College, Allegedly Raped, Abused By Gang.” Had the headline read that way, the fury would have been great. The facts that the police didn’t arrest anyone, that the gang was not talking, that it took two days for the police to search the scene of the crime would have added to the anger.

But that’s not how it was reported. Rather, it was reported that a black stripper was accusing members of the Duke lacrosse team of rape after she and another woman were hired to dance for them at a party. That method of reportage put race and class in the center of the story. Predictably, the right-wing media machine has kicked in, prompting mean-spirited attacks upon the accuser’s character. Rush Limbaugh called the two women strippers “hoes,” and later apologized saying “I regret you heard me say that.” And Michael Savage referred to the alleged victim as a "Durham dirt-bag" and "dirty, verminous black stripper". And, it is in this tense atmosphere that the accuser flees from home to home, fearing for her safety. The players got lawyers immediately, who advised them to talk to no one. Duke University boosters hired big-time legal gunslinger Bob Bennett – who counts the Catholic Church as well as then-president Bill Clinton among his clients – to step in as spokesman for the newly-formed “Committee for Fairness to Duke Families”.

We don’t know exactly what happened that night. Initial DNA tests came back negative, incriminating no one. But something happened on the night of March 13th – something so compelling that Durham District Attorney Michael Nifong was prompted to say, “This case is not going away”. Indeed, he asserts that the lack of DNA evidence "doesn't mean nothing happened. It just means nothing was left behind." The District Attorney is putting the case before a grand jury. And, while unresolved racial, gender and class issues dictate and divide perspectives, these facts are not in dispute.

The players say that they used aliases to hire strippers for a team party at the house rented by the team captains. The accuser goes to school full-time at North Carolina Central, and for the past two months has worked at an escort service to help pay her way through school and support her two children. This was the first time she had been hired to dance for a party, but she expected it to be a bachelor party of five men. She and her partner found themselves in a party of more than 30 white male lacrosse players. The one African American on the team wasn’t there.

We know that the two women were abused. The accuser says they were met with racial slurs, and stopped dancing and decided to leave. “We started to cry,” she said, “we were so scared.” They left, but team members came out, apologized, and convinced them to come back. A neighbor reports seeing them leave and then come back, and confirms hearing racial slurs.

The accuser says once they returned, they were separated and she was pushed into a bathroom by three men, strangled, raped, kicked and beaten. The players deny that that happened, but they immediately retained lawyers and stopped talking. The woman was picked up afterward by police, who reported her as “passed out drunk.” Admitted to a hospital, tests showed injuries consistent with rape and physical assault.

The team was notorious for its gross behavior. 15 of the 47 players had been previously charged with misdemeanors ranging from underage drinking to public urination. After the party one player sent out an email saying that he planned on inviting strippers over and then “killing the b…. as soon as they walk in and proceeding to cut their skin off,” an act he said would be sexually satisfying.

Black women; white men. A stripper; and a team blowout. The wealthy white athletes – many from prep schools – of Duke; and the working class woman from historically black North Carolina Central. Race and class and sex. What happened? We don’t know for sure because the Duke players are maintaining a code of silence.

The history of white men and black women – the special fantasies and realities of exploitation – goes back to the nation’s beginning and the arrival of slaves from Africa. The patterns associated with this history arouse fears and evoke too many bad memories.

Duke University is clearly embarrassed by the incident. The president cancelled the lacrosse team’s season, and accepted the resignation of its coach, who had taken the team to the national championship last year. He convened five panels to look into various aspects of the incident. At Duke, North Carolina Central, and schools across the country students and administrators began discussing once more the combustible realities of racial and sexual harassment on campus.

Durham, North Carolina where Duke is located is not the old South. Its Mayor is black, as is its police chief, and the majority of its city council. It is relatively prosperous, with low unemployment, home of high-tech companies. The largest black owned insurance company is located there as are two black owned banks. There is also poverty, disproportionately African American. And there is Duke, a private school stocked with affluent, mostly white kids, often referred to as the plantation.

But Duke is alas probably no worse than other schools in the way African American women are too often perceived. As Rebecca Hall of the University of California in Berkeley, who studies images of African American women in the culture, states, “Turn on a music video. A black woman is somebody who has excess sexuality….It’s excess sexuality that white men are entitled to.”

In the wake of the Duke scandal, black women across the country report on how often they are harassed or treated as simply objects available to hit on by white men. This image is magnified in our culture – and not simply by white producers, but on black music videos and black networks as well.

The Duke scandal should lead colleges across the country to hold searching discussions about racial and sexual stereotypes, exposing the myths that entrap so many. But it shouldn’t take the brutalizing of a mother of two to raise these issues. Justice must be pursued at Duke. But Duke should not be treated as an isolated extreme – but as a goad to probing discussion and concerted action to lift students above the hatreds, the fears and the fantasies that still plague our society
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I dont see how sharpton is a hypocrite ... and Imus ripped a bunch of females who havent done anything but excel in school and in their sport....What was Imus reason for talking about them like that?

simply because they were black girls? Thats it? thats terrible

unless you were there that night, you dont actually know what happened.. I personally think something did happen to her.....but I wasnt there, so I cant say, just like you cant

And all the Duke lacrosse players did was excel at their academics and sport, why did Sharpton feel the need to advocate their suspensions from Duke? Becuase they are upper-class white males and the alleged victim was black? That is equally terrible.

I was not there that night so I can't be sure, but after more than a year since the case opened shouldn't there be some evidence of some sort? The girl had sex with two different guys BEFORE going to dance at the LAX party and her co-worker/dancer/friend said she was lying. Pretty obvious to me what she was trying to accomplish.
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And all the Duke lacrosse players did was excel at their academics and sport, why did Sharpton feel the need to advocate their suspensions from Duke? Becuase they are upper-class white males and the alleged victim was black? That is equally terrible.

the two arent equal at all...

Lets run down a few reasons why Sharpton would comment on these dudes

*A woman claimed she was raped by these guys
*one player sent disgusting emails talking about skinning females alive at the next party
*the players are locally known as pigs and a problem in the neighborhood

and what did the Rutgers girls do to deserve this assault on their character?

*Be black, and be female.

there is no comparison there

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Sharpton and Jackson arent apologizing because they feel the Duke players are guilty of wrongdoing. And since the Duke players arent saying anything and just letting the DNA evidence clear them...they feel something went down.

I bolded the text in the article...to give you an idea of how Jessie Jackson views the case and the individiuals involved. As far as he is concerned the players have had a history of offences in the past and one emailed a racial emial after the incident. Now to ask why Sharpton and Jackson arent apologizing and comparing it to Imus and why he shouldnt have to apologize is silly.

I'm not taking sides on this issue but what I am doing is laying out the reasons why you are asking for apologies and not getting them. This is why...they feel the Duke players did something wrong that night and wont fess up. Whether you agree/disagree is on you.

That article was ridiculously biased, guilty by assumptions? Please. I wouldn't say a damn thing either, seeing that DNA is physical and undeniable PROOF. Assumptions are not. Keep reaching Mr. Jackson. And if there is no physical proof, why even comment on it? Sharpton and Jackson are racists, plain and simple.
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That article was ridiculously biased, guilty by assumptions? Please. I wouldn't say a damn thing either, seeing that DNA is physical and undeniable PROOF. Assumptions are not. Keep reaching Mr. Jackson. And if there is no physical proof, why even comment on it? Sharpton and Jackson are racists, plain and simple.

the DNA evidence was inconclusive, not exculpatory.... Big difference

anyway... you are hell bent on blaming Jesse and Al for something..anything, so I guess there is no reason to discuss this with you
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the two arent equal at all...

Lets run down a few reasons why Sharpton would comment on these dudes

*A woman claimed she was raped by these guys
*one player sent disgusting emails talking about skinning females alive at the next party
*the players are locally known as pigs and a problem in the neighborhood

and what did the Rutgers girls do to deserve this assault on their character?

*Be black, and be female.

there is no comparison there

Um, yes there is. It was a claim she was raped. That's it. A claim. So off with their heads!!

Locally known as pigs beacuse less than 1/3 of the team had an alcohol ticket or a public urination ticket? Boy that sure does sound threatening and piggish in a college town. Oh wait, no it doesn't.

And the whole team of 47 is comprised of rapists becasue one piece of sh*t player writes an email like that? Guilty by association hypocrisy.

The female victim pointed out several LAX players who were completely innocent and yet they still had to leave school for awhile and have their lacrosse season cancelled. What did they do to deserve these suspensions?

*Be white, male, upper-class, and a lacrosse player.

Definitely comparable.
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