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Old 04-19-2007, 01:18 PM   #16
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Default Re: Who do you blame for Cho Seung Hui?

If the guy was mentally ill like they are saying he was, then there is no telling what was troubling him....

I think people need to start considering the role the mind plays in these situations...

I hear people dismiss it and compare it to what they consider to be sane....But thats just the point

He was insane.....

There are alot of insane people walking the streets and sane people need to pay more attention to the other's state of mind... A number of People had the feeling this guy was seriously troubled but no-one considered that it could balloon into this kind of problem if not properly dealt with...

This should serve as a lesson to everyone to pay more attention to the people around you and care about their issues before their issues become your issues too...

It could happen to you next if you arent careful and lucky
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:24 PM   #17
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Yeah, he was a victim of society, but so are all of us to some degree.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:25 PM   #18
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Cho Seung Hui...the reason ppl do this kinda stuff b/c ppl put all they attention on it....
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:44 PM   #19
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- The school for not taking his professor's concerns seriously?
- His parents?
- The mental institute for not following up?
- The guy selling him the guns?
- The society for neglecting people like him?
- Cho Seung Hui himself?

A mixture of all of the above. It's crazy how easy it is to buy guns in the US. I believe he bought the guns at a local Walmart.

What ticks me off are the people who want to blame the entertainment industry (video games, movies, music, etc) for peoples actions. It's nonsense.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:46 PM   #20
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Wal-mart sells handguns?
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:48 PM   #21
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I blame the girls he had stalked before for not putting out, I bet if he was getting laid he'd be a happy person.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:52 PM   #22
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A mixture of all of the above. It's crazy how easy it is to buy guns in the US. I believe he bought the guns at a local Walmart.

What ticks me off are the people who want to blame the entertainment industry (video games, movies, music, etc) for peoples actions. It's nonsense.

Wal-mart doesnt sell handguns.... He bought one over the internet and the other at a gun store...

He bought ammo at ***** Sporting Goods
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:55 PM   #23
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I can kinda relate to Cho somewhat. I am what you would classify as a "loner". Sure I have a few freinds and cousins I hang out with but Im like this guy to an extent. When I meet new people I go into a shell and dont like to talk to them until I get to know them and feel more comfortable around them.

In Highschool, I was picked on somewhat, had trouble making friends and still do because I am a very anti-social person around people I dont know, So I know what it feels like to be alone and isolated, and I did make threats to people at my highschool, but obviously I never did any of it, I was joking for the most part.

After that I dropped out of highschool and went into counseling and was put on anti-depressants, so I did get help and I have started to turn my life around by going to college trying to make something out of myself, I have lost 30 pounds since January this year, Iv gone from 340 to 310.

I am no way saying what he did was right, because it wasnt, but Cho was also a victim of society.


Wrong. He made himself a victim. I read that even when people talked to him he wanted wanted nothing to do with them. How does that make him a victim?

You got to fight for yourself, but do it in a reasonable manner. I was a loner in school somewhat, but I let people know early on I wouldn't take bullshyt and they didn't bother me. I had friends, but it wasn't the rich prep type. Those people never bothered me because I wouldn't let them.

This kid took the gutless way out. It doesn't take as much guts as he thought to pointlessly kill people. That isn't standing up for yourself or for a greater cause.

Everybody can fall into a trap of pity for themselves. I did it for a 3 or 4 year period, but I came to my senses and realized I just wanted attention more than anything and I was bringing it all on myself.

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Old 04-19-2007, 02:00 PM   #24
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Wrong. He made himself a victim. I read that even when people talked to him he wanted wanted nothing to do with them. How does that make him a victim?

You got to fight for yourself, but do it in a reasonable manner. I was a loner in school somewhat, but I let people know early on I wouldn't take bullshyt and they didn't bother me. I had friends, but it wasn't the rich prep type. Those people never bothered me because I wouldn't let them.

This kid took the gutless way out. It doesn't take as much guts as he thought to pointlessly kill people. That isn't standing up for yourself or for a greater cause.

People tried to talk to him in COLLEGE, if I had to guess, this has been brewing for a LONG TIME, probably before Highschool or it started in highschool. We may get some more answers i people that went to him in highschool start to surface and talk about how he was or when he started to change.

He shelled up and never let his emotions out, and they built up and finally exploded on 4-16-07.

Also, I dont believe this guy was looking for attention like alot of people say, he was looking for revenge.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:14 PM   #25
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He made himself a victim.

Lots of people didn't have a great high school period. But he failed to open up when he was give chances and so he made himself a victim.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:15 PM   #26
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I think he was insane & he was looking for attention......

Only insane people internalize the normal fears and trials that ALL people go thru...

the fact that he couldnt cope with his position in life and felt murdering others was his only way out shows very clearly that he was insane.....

Only people seeking attention send photos & video tape to NBC to unveil his plans to murder people "in revenge" for not doing whatever it was he wanted them to
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:19 PM   #27
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I think he was insane & he was looking for attention......

Only insane people internalize the normal fears and trials that ALL people go thru...

the fact that he couldnt cope with his position in life and felt murdering others was his only way out shows very clearly that he was insane.....

Only people seeking attention send photos & video tape to NBC to unveil his plans to murder people "in revenge" for not doing whatever it was he wanted them to


Agreed. When I had my depression period a few years ago I came on here and ranted. It takes a crazy person to just go around killing people.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:33 PM   #28
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Default Re: Who do you blame for Cho Seung Hui?

U BLAME HIM.... he had the same problems everyone else has there wuz no reason to kill 30 people
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:34 PM   #29
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I think he was insane & he was looking for attention......

Only insane people internalize the normal fears and trials that ALL people go thru...

the fact that he couldnt cope with his position in life and felt murdering others was his only way out shows very clearly that he was insane.....


I agree to some degree, but I'm also very aware that for years society has always been quick to label anyone that murders or does anything seemingly crazy as "INSANE", when often times there are outside pressures that help to push the person in that insane corner.

I think if he had a better background, friends, girlfriends, good grades, acceptance of his plays etc. that he would have been the guy that no one thought was insane, just quirky.

People say Hilter was insane, Unibomber was insane, Edgar Allen Poe was insane. They are quick to label people insane that they fear or don't understand. There is usually more to the story than that.

I think everyone is a killer, people that say they could never ever kill someone just aren't aware of what they are capable of, they haven't been pushed enough, tormented enough, hungry enough, desperate enough, felt enough pain etc.

I don't know if the kid was insane at 8 or 12 years old or however old he was when he came to the US. But coming to a new country at a young age would mess with most people, especially if they had a bad background, parents, friends, sexual abuse etc.

But whatever it is that made the guy who he was (he may have been his own worst demon), in the end, he was not sane, or we can at least say that he was very odd, not coping, far from normal, and severely disturbed.

You can blame a million and one things that happened to him before this time, but in the end it was his decision alone to do the things he did. I'm done writing about the guy, he doesn't deserve to be talked about and given attention, **** happens and always will.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:40 PM   #30
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Cho Seung Hui

I could go on about a variety of issues that can contribute to a person just snapping like this, but in the end we all make a choice - and so did he.

Not buying the insanity thing either... Insane is taking orders to kill from a dog - not being mad at people you wouldn't let in to help you and going ballistic.
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