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Old 04-20-2007, 07:00 AM   #1
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Default Boxing vs UFC

Floyd Mayweather stands almost 5-foot-9, weighs 154 pounds, has a 72-inch reach and can drop most mortals with a single swing of either hand.

He's fast, athletic and dodges punches as well as anyone, maybe ever. In 13 world title fights, he won all 13. His next one is May 5 in Las Vegas, this time as a junior middleweight, against Oscar de la Hoya, as big a fight as boxing has seen in years.
His nickname may be "Pretty Boy," but he is one bad, bad man.
On Cinco de Mayo we'll find out if the heavily-favored Mayweather can beat de la Hoya – but could he beat a snarling, menacing, multi-skilled champion of the Ultimate Fighting Championship?
How about lightweight (155 pound) champ Sean Sherk, who may stand just 5-foot-6, may suffer from a distinct reach disadvantage, but as a mixed martial arts master is schooled in "interdisciplinary forms of fighting that include jiu-jitsu, judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling."
Could the best pound-for-pound fighter in the old combat sport (boxing) handle a champion in the new combat sport (UFC)?
"UFC's champions can't handle boxing. That's why they are in UFC." Mayweather said Tuesday from Las Vegas during a break in training. "Put one of our guys in UFC and he'd be the champion. Any good fighter, he'd straight knock them out."
Dana White, a one-time boxer and boxing instructor and current UFC president, laughs at that.

"Boxers couldn't become mixed martial artists. That's why they're boxers," White countered Wednesday from England where UFC has an event Saturday. "They are one trick ponies. Our guys can do everything. They can box, they can kick box, they can wrestle and do jiu-jitsu. They are much better athletes than boxers."
Mayweather may be right, but he'd have to be. Any boxer stepping into the UFC octagon would have to knock his opponent out before the mixed martial artist got a hold of him, because once the fight fell to the mat, where things get nasty, the boxer is all but finished.
But, as Mayweather points out, the often (by boxing standards) clumsy and lead-with-their-face UFC guys would have to walk through a hail of vicious jabs, crosses and hooks to get there.
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Take Chuck Liddell," Mayweather said of the UFC's biggest star and light heavyweight champion (about 205 pounds). "Put him in the ring with a (boxer) who is just 10-0 and Chuck Liddell would get punished."
So you'd punish a UFC champion, too?
"Come on, man. What'd you think? Am I just 10-0?"
Mayweather is 37-0.
Liddell, with six inches and 50 pounds on Mayweather, isn't possible, but someone like Sherk, someone his size? With that insane reach, unreal punching power and by UFC rules aided by small, light 4-ounce gloves would Mayweather carve up Sherk instantly? Or would Sherk fight throughout the barrage and get Mayweather in a clutch no ref will save him from?
"They wouldn't have a chance to grapple (us) because we'd knock them out," Mayweather said in general. "(The fighter) would be knocked out before he even touched us."
Of course, perhaps no punch is strong enough to stop a charging opponent.
No one really knows what would happen at such an elite level.
"I used to talk like Floyd Mayweather when I was involved in boxing," White said. "I talked just like him, until I educated myself about this sport. These guys are amazing athletes, Floyd Mayweather is one of the best boxers ever, (and) Sean Sherk will whoop his ass in under two minutes."
"Any day that Mayweather wants to put his money and his ass where his mouth is, I'm ready," White continued. "If he wants to step up, let's do it."
First off, Mayweather was talking mostly in general about his disdain for UFC – "Boxing is an art, UFC is a fad." But Mayweather has spent almost as much time this spring ripping UFC as de la Hoya, who he seems to consider as little more than a matinee idol useful for only increasing the purse.
"I never knew popularity to win any fight," Mayweather said. "I'll beat him and come home and watch basketball."
The UFC, though, is clearly on his mind. He brought it up on his own Tuesday. Earlier this month he cracked that "anyone can put a tattoo on their head and get in a street fight."
Mayweather may be a talker – loquacious doesn't begin to describe the 30-year-old – but he isn't dumb. So maybe he is setting up another big pay day in the event he dusts de la Hoya and boxing has little to offer. Or maybe he just wants to promote a fight involving others.
Of course, the economics of UFC would have to change to get Mayweather to participate. UFC fighters make a fraction of top boxers. As part of the family business, Mayweather, his dad and his uncle handle all aspects of his career. For the de la Hoya fight he'll earn millions.
"Why would I go into a sport paying hundreds of thousands when I'm in a sport paying $20 million?" Mayweather said.
Mayweather knows full well, though, that the pay per view money is there for the taking on something like this, a battle that would be intriguing at nearly every level. White would just about kill for this to go down, preferably with Mayweather involved as a fighter.
"I'm willing to put together a fight for Sean Sherk and Floyd Mayweather with numbers that would make sense for Floyd," White said. "And I guarantee you he would not accept it. Floyd Mayweather would never fight in the UFC because he would get his head ripped off." Yes, he would. But only if Sherk didn't get his head ripped off first.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:44 AM   #2
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Default Re: Boxing vs UFC

Chuck is a top fighter in the world mixed martials arts because he can pack a punch like iron Mike and avoid takedown better than the most of the fighters out there, if not all. with that said a good boxer can become a good UFC fighter if he is properly trained for it. however what Mayweather said is a total bull. Floyd doesn't know what he's talking about..... unless of course he's saying all this in the effort to save the dying sport called boxing.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:48 AM   #3
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Default Re: Boxing vs UFC

Boxers = soft, protected, etc.

Mixed Martial Artists = real men.

Of course the boxer would beat the mixed martial artist in a boxing match, and of course the mixed martial artist would beat the boxer in a mixed martial arts match. Two different sports. It's like saying Tracy McGrady and A-Rod would beat eachother in their own respective sport.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:19 AM   #4
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Default Re: Boxing vs UFC

UFC by whatever it wants.

Marcus Davis is probably the most successful boxer to make the crossover, 16-1 I think, and he is nowhere near contention in the UFC and has even been oustruck before.

Floyd is a great boxer and that's it. Zambidis, Masato, Kraus, Sato, Buakaw, and Souwer would wreck him in a kickboxing match. Any average MMA artist would take him down and submit him/pound him out.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:43 AM   #5
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floyd's fist will be nullified when he starts getting kicked in the legs and then taken to the ground.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:51 AM   #6
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If you could navigate to the hoop carrying the basketball without dribbling the would be the MMA version of the NBA. Boxing is more artistic by rule. Any d bag from off the street who thinks he can fight cause he sucker punches other d bags a the club can't be a boxer. Boxing rules make it hard for some nightclub bouncer with a military background to run around calling himself the champion of boxing. Besides if you can't get your great white hype in boxing just create another sport where you can knee in the groin and head butt people like in the movies.

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Old 04-20-2007, 10:58 AM   #7
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Oh and another thing. The best boxers in the world box for a living. The best martial artist in the world probably wouldn't even acknowlege MMA.

And nobody packs a punch like M. Tyson did that's just ludacrispt. *Tyson lisp*
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Default Re: Boxing vs UFC

as Tmac said each would win in the others sport, but overall id have to give the advantage in a 1 on 1 fight to the MMA guy. In a real fight the MMA guy would just clinch and Take down the boxer and finish him in the ground.
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:14 PM   #9
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A buddy of mine has a theory if you take a top ranked boxer know for heavy hands and tuaght him how to effectively sprawl, he could be lethal. Imagine RJJ with superior takedown defense? Then combined with the fact he's not wearing boxing gloves. That would be a neat sight.
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Oh and another thing. The best boxers in the world box for a living. The best martial artist in the world probably wouldn't even acknowlege MMA.

And nobody packs a punch like M. Tyson did that's just ludacrispt. *Tyson lisp*

BJJ black belt tournament champions, Abu Dhabi submission grappling Champions, Olympic medalist Greco-Roman wrestlers, Olympic medalist Judoka, K-1 Grand Prix Champion kickboxers, and Division 1 Wrestling Collegiate National Champions all compete in MMA.

Nice try though. Oh and headbutts + knees to the groin are illegal moves in MMA.

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