Originally Posted by Carbine
Ryan didn't have Julio much two years ago and still produced. Roddy has been a shell of himsel the last couple years. Anyone who watches Atlanta can confirm that.
He has a terrible OLINE. One of the worst defenses in the league. Does he even have a run game? Him not winning recently just means he's not one of those QBS who can mask the deficiencies of the team thru the regular season and get them a winning record. That just means he's not Peyotn Manning, Tom Brady. Nothing wrong with that.
Cam is so damn inconsistent. His accuracy regardless of completion percentage is erratic. He's one of the most talented but ultimately inaccurate throwers in the league.
Cam is a good overall QB. I can't prove Matt is better, but i can make a far better argument for him being ranked higher than I could for Newton.
One of the main reasons Matt Ryan has better passing numbers is because of defense.
Carolina controls the clock with their defense and run game, which gives Cam less opportunity to throw the ball.
Cam Newton attempted 1923 attempts in 62 games. (31.02 per game)
Matt Ryan attempted 2460 attempts in 64 games. (38.44 per game)
Sure, Roddy isn't what he was in 2012 & 2013; but Smith wasn't that dominant either in those two years. But Julio Jones is a top five receive in football; Cam has never had the luxury of playing with a talent such as that.
Both QB's have had a lousy OL; even with Carolina having Kalil & Gross for 3 of those 4 years, Cam still felt constant pressure because the rest of the line had major holes.
But the main reason I think Cam is better is because of his versatility.
His numbers are pretty similar to Ryan's despite playing on a team that does not rely on passing nearly as much. Their offensive strategy is extremely predictable. Atlanta utilizes Matt's arm a lot more because the team is build for a passing attack; Carolina is build for managing the clock with good defense and running the ball on offense.
Like I said, it's fine if you think Matt is better but it's certainly debatable.
Hope Cam has a healthy season this year; I think he has unlimited potential.
And thanks for actually giving me your reasons as to why you think Matt is better.