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Old 01-03-2018, 10:10 AM   #61
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Default Re: What are the chances that LeBron James has used HGH or Anabolic Steroids in his life?

Def on some PED's. They all are.
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:11 AM   #62
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He slimmed down to play a more perimeter oriented game yet somehow got noticeably less athletic within a few months from the end of the 2014 season to beginning of the 2015 season despite not suffering any major injuries.
Probably had something to with his back injuries?
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:56 PM   #63
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Most guys are on something of some sort. BUT....

The genes of Lebron James and uber athletic guys are still freaks without them.

He doesn't get hurt because he takes care of his body, has a little luck and seems to just have good bone structure.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:31 PM   #64
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:51 PM   #65
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Most guys are on something of some sort. BUT....

The genes of Lebron James and uber athletic guys are still freaks without them.

He doesn't get hurt because he takes care of his body, has a little luck and seems to just have good bone structure.

No one is AS athletic without PED's as they are with them.

They might be freaks by normal human standards, but they still are not as athletic as they are with PED's.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:54 PM   #66
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NBA where ratings is more important than integrity. This league will and always will be cheap
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:04 PM   #67
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No one is AS athletic without PED's as they are with them.

They might be freaks by normal human standards, but they still are not as athletic as they are with PED's.

You have no idea whether Lebron or any other NBA players taking illegal substances unless a test shows otherwise.

Usain Bolt dominated an event where drugs can make a significant difference, he never tested positive for anything.

Maybe some people just have those 1 in a billion genes... people don't like it because they want to blame excellence on cheating
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:26 PM   #68
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You have no idea whether Lebron or any other NBA players taking illegal substances unless a test shows otherwise.

Usain Bolt dominated an event where drugs can make a significant difference, he never tested positive for anything.

Maybe some people just have those 1 in a billion genes... people don't like it because they want to blame excellence on cheating

Lance Armstrong, Mcgwire, Sosa, Bonds, countless others went years and years before being caught.

Where there's smoke theres fire.

Just look at the difference in LeBron between 2014 and 2015.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:39 PM   #69
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How do you as a HGH user with the 22nd and 75th best players in their prime to ever play the game come up short relative to a guy who played with the 30th best player of all time and was drug free?

Realgm top 75 and counting of 2017:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Lebron James
4. Bill Russell
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Oscar Robertson
14. Karl Malone
15. Jerry West
16. Julius Erving
17. Dirk Nowitzki
18. David Robinson
19. Charles Barkley
20. Moses Malone
21. John Stockton
22. Dwyane Wade
23. Chris Paul
24. Bob Pettit
25. George Mikan
26. Steve Nash
27. Patrick Ewing
28. Kevin Durant
29. Stephen Curry
30. Scottie Pippen
31. John Havlicek
32. Elgin Baylor
33. Clyde Drexler
34. Rick Barry
35. Gary Payton
36. Artis Gilmore
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40. Kevin McHale
41. George Gervin
42. Reggie Miller
43. Paul Pierce
44. Dwight Howard
45. Dolph Schayes
46. Bob Cousy
47. Ray Allen
48. Pau Gasol
49. Wes Unseld
50. Robert Parish
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56. Willis Reed
57. Bob Lanier
58. Allen Iverson
59. Adrian Dantley
60. Dave Cowens
61. Elvin Hayes
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63. Vince Carter
64. Alex English
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67. Nate Thurmond
68. Sam Jones
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:02 AM   #70
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Not sure, but there was a lot of coincidence in the NBA's HGH testing policy announcement and his weight/athletic loss when he went back to Cleveland.

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He slimmed down to play a more perimeter oriented game yet somehow got noticeably less athletic within a few months from the end of the 2014 season to beginning of the 2015 season despite not suffering any major injuries.

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Lance Armstrong, Mcgwire, Sosa, Bonds, countless others went years and years before being caught.

Where there's smoke theres fire.

Just look at the difference in LeBron between 2014 and 2015.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJNe550OrZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3yVpxr038M

Lol, look how much better his explosion and elevation is in the first video *despite* weighing more..
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:12 PM   #71
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Le Batard: My Guess is LeBron James is ‘Doing Something’

http://slicemiami.com/2016/06/08/le-...ron-james-hgh/
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:09 PM   #72
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LeBron James was in Miami while the Cavaliers played at home Sunday, with team's permission

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....mes_miami.html

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Did Bill Simmons Hint That LeBron James Took A Steroid Vacation?

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/did-bill-s...roid-vacation/


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LeBron traveled to Miami for rehab

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ehab-back-knee

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Here's the story behind the 2-week break that turned LeBron James' season around

Windhorst says that late in 2014, James had been moody and his body wasn't 100%. After suddenly deciding not to play in a game against the Hawks, the Cavs gave him take two weeks off to rest, from which he returned healthy and in a better mood, seemingly revitalized by some midseason trades.

"[James] had sort of just like waved a bit of a white flag there. He just didn't feel like playing. He had never done that ever before. He had always just played through it. And so it was after that game, [the Cavaliers] said, 'Alright, take your two weeks off,' because he had reached a very low point."

Nobody is quite sure why James' two-week break turned around his season. He does seem healthier and more explosive. If it was just fatigue and simple aches that he was dealing with, then two weeks may have been enough to revitalize him.

http://www.businessinsider.com/lebro...-around-2015-4

I mean...could it be more obvious.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:11 PM   #73
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The obsession is real. That you don't realize how pathetic you are is hilarious.
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:45 PM   #74
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This thread needs a poll.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:12 PM   #75
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The obsession is real. That you don't realize how pathetic you are is hilarious.



There's red flags all over these last couple pages..
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