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Old 05-08-2007, 01:34 PM   #16
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Big Mac didn't step on peoples toes and he was white..

he was bigger than Bonds but Mac had that stocky and bulky build...

He did catch sh*t, remember the classic "I'm not here to talk about the past..."? It is far from a race issue, Bonds is an as*hole to everyone, especially the media, hew deserves this scrutiny.

And besides, he still gets 20 minutes of every single Sportscenter. I remember one the first games of the season, the Giants lose 7-0 to the Pads, and the whole highlights of that game was of Bonds failing to get a HR. F*ck you ESPN.

There's nothing Bonds can do though, because suing the investigators would make Petey-the-Don't-Sue-People-Panda an even sadder panda.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:34 PM   #17
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what the hell is a sad panda??

Sexual Harassment Panda, South Park.

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yea its not race issue... ya he's a d.ick hes not even on the MLB video games b/c he not in the players union... sounds like a good co-worker.... Barry is a good guy tho...
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Sexual Harassment Panda, South Park.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Harassment_Panda

hahaha thats messed up
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:38 PM   #20
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yea its not race issue... ya he's a d.ick hes not even on the MLB video games b/c he not in the players union... sounds like a good co-worker.... Barry is a good guy tho...

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yea its not race issue... ya he's a d.ick hes not even on the MLB video games b/c he not in the players union... sounds like a good co-worker.... Barry is a good guy tho...

How is he a good guy?
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has he gotten arrested?? theres your answer...
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has he gotten arrested?? theres your answer...

That's your rebuttal? Wow. Worst. Logic. Ever.

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Bad logic. How many murderers and child molesters never get arrested?
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A lot of players got bigger in baseball. Why is Bonds any different? Ken Griffey Jr was a decent size as a rookie and as of today got bigger. Same with Arod. You cant assume because a player gets bigger they are on roids. That is retarded. Bonds has probably one of the toughest workout regimes in the game. It rivals that if Jerry Rice...Gary Sheffield (another who got bigger) said he worked out with Bonds and couldnt hang. Bonds hired a personal trainer out of his pocket.

If you're gonna examine a player examine head, foot sizes from back then til now. Dont examine "Wow he is 240 now and back then he was 170". Since when did human beings stopped growing? As you get older you put on weight anyway. So that argument is weak and holds no weight. You gotta come stronger when accusing Bonds of doing illegal performance enhacing drugs.

No one spoke on his personal trainer nor Bonds testimony where he said "I didnt knowingly take anything illegal" which basically says if he did take illegal substances he didnt do so knowingly/was unaware. Mention that when you claim Bonds is guilty. Not his size change. WE may never know when Bonds took illegal substances, for how long. The suspicion will always be there and honestly I think he did.


That said taking illegal substances didnt improve nothing about his natural talent which was phenominal when he entered MLB. It maybe have given him more power but his plate awareness, his hand/eye coorindation, his ability to recognize pitches and drive runs in. His intimitadion being walked so many times....thats all Bonds. MLB tests for illegal drugs now yet he has had an impressive year....check out his numbers vs others and only Arod is really having a better year. Bonds is putting up stats in less ABs. He's getting walked again as well. He's on pace for 57 HRs over 125rbis.

Today he went 0-2 with 2 BBs.

He has 11 IBB in 74ABs vs Howard 11 IBB in 96ABs and Hafners 10 IBB in 104ABs

Do the math fellas.

People think Bonds dominance is based on illegal drugs. He won MVPs in 93, 92 and 90. Gonna claim he was on roids then? Like lets be real. He didnt pull a Ken Caminitti.
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People were hardcore accusing Big Mac of being on the juice even before he retired. Don't act like Big Mac had a free pass. That sumbeech used more juice than Bonds and he'll forever pay the price.

Don't be fooled people, the truth about Bonds will come out, and it should. That's only right. I don't blame a natural hard hitting legend like Hank Aaron for not supporting Bonds' road to being the new homerun king.

Oh, and ONE50, stop making everything into a race issue. Talking about race makes me a ssssssaaaaaaad panda.

I didn't bring up race, I didn't have to, so I didn't. That was all about the MLB getting back in the good graces of the fans. And no one of substance was even thinking about a steroid witch hunt. Infact they serve us that sh*t sandwich of a story about andro-plastic (whatever) just to make everything look on the up and up. Baseball is just openly hypocritical in many aspects of it's existance. Oh and Hank Aaron should be happy as a Homo Hooker at the Charles Hickey school for boys that Barry is approaching is record. I heard last year, that people still consideer The Babe the homerun champ. Basebal is messed up.
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Old 05-08-2007, 02:00 PM   #28
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this is the most relevant thing Papi said:

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"He's just making things worse," Ortiz told the Herald. "He's the commissioner, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't be saying that. What are people going to think about the game? They'll be like, 'This game is a joke.' He should come, even if he doesn't want to."


thats my problem with baseball....Its the most poorly run sport of the major four......

the commisioner needs to be a calming influence bringing order to the game, not more chaos....He ignored this issue when Mcgwire and Sosa made their run for the record books (i even remember Mcgwire standing in front of his locker during an interview and there was creatin in plain view sitting at his locker) now he is pointing the finger instead of fixing the problem.....


Big Papi - 'This game is a joke.'

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A lot of players got bigger in baseball. Why is Bonds any different? Ken Griffey Jr was a decent size as a rookie and as of today got bigger. Same with Arod. You cant assume because a player gets bigger they are on roids. That is retarded. Bonds has probably one of the toughest workout regimes in the game. It rivals that if Jerry Rice...Gary Sheffield (another who got bigger) said he worked out with Bonds and couldnt hang. Bonds hired a personal trainer out of his pocket.

If you're gonna examine a player examine head, foot sizes from back then til now. Dont examine "Wow he is 240 now and back then he was 170". Since when did human beings stopped growing? As you get older you put on weight anyway. So that argument is weak and holds no weight. You gotta come stronger when accusing Bonds of doing illegal performance enhacing drugs.

No one spoke on his personal trainer nor Bonds testimony where he said "I didnt knowingly take anything illegal" which basically says if he did take illegal substances he didnt do so knowingly/was unaware. Mention that when you claim Bonds is guilty. Not his size change. WE may never know when Bonds took illegal substances, for how long. The suspicion will always be there and honestly I think he did.


That said taking illegal substances didnt improve nothing about his natural talent which was phenominal when he entered MLB. It maybe have given him more power but his plate awareness, his hand/eye coorindation, his ability to recognize pitches and drive runs in. His intimitadion being walked so many times....thats all Bonds. MLB tests for illegal drugs now yet he has had an impressive year....check out his numbers vs others and only Arod is really having a better year. Bonds is putting up stats in less ABs. He's getting walked again as well. He's on pace for 57 HRs over 125rbis.

Today he went 0-2 with 2 BBs.

He has 11 IBB in 74ABs vs Howard 11 IBB in 96ABs and Hafners 10 IBB in 104ABs

Do the math fellas.

People think Bonds dominance is based on illegal drugs. He won MVPs in 93, 92 and 90. Gonna claim he was on roids then? Like lets be real. He didnt pull a Ken Caminitti.


He's more likely to be on HGH than steroids, if he's on anything at all. MLB doesn't test for HGH. You have to be a moron in the first place to take steroids. SOmeone like Bonds, with his knowledge of weight lifting, vitamin usage, training, etc is not going to use something like steroids. He doesn't need to. If anyone is on the juice, it's someone who is desperate and trying to break into MLB.
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Is Clemens a good guy???
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