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Old 07-21-2016, 12:27 AM   #16
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And only 3 of the Bulls last 7 seasons haven't ended in a loss to LeBron. Yikes
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:39 AM   #17
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Defensive rebounds are Lebron's only area of advantage, since his 1 assist edge is offset by more turnovers:


Playoffs (Per Game):
JORDAN:. 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 56.8 ts
LEBRON:. 27.9 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.8 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 56.7 ts

Playoffs (Per 100 Possessions):
JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 56.8 ts
LEBRON:. 36.4 pts.. 2.1 oreb.. 9.4 dreb.. 8.8 ast.. 4.6 tov.. 56.7 ts

Finals (Per Game):
JORDAN:. 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 48.1 fg
LEBRON:. 27.0 ppg.. 9.9 reb.. 7.2 apg.. 4.1 tov.. 45.1 fg


A team can win with less rebounds or assists, but never if they score less.. So scoring is a more important category than rebounds and assists.

And since #1 options control the scoring and flow more than anyone else (it's their job description), Jordan's massive scoring and efficiency advantage is far more important than Lebron's replaceable defensive rebounds against small ball lineups, or 1 assist edge achieved via Westbrook-like time of possession and turnovers.

Also, MJ faced far greater defensive attention because he averaged 15 more ppg than his 2nd option, compared to only 1 ppg for Lebron.. Despite the greater defensive attention, MJ still made all the game-winning plays for Pippen, whereas Kyrie made several for Lebron..

Finally, Lebron needed 7 games because he averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers through 4 games, before averaging 36 ppg for the final 3 games - but if he'd averaged 36 ppg for the entire series like MJ did in 91-93 Finals (36/7/8), then he wouldn't need a 7th game and therefore would've been more dominant like MJ.
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:40 AM   #18
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And only 3 of the Bulls last 7 seasons haven't ended in a loss to LeBron. Yikes



Chill bro, Rose is gone. Thank god us real Bulls fans ain't gotta deal with this nathanjizzle dude anymore
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:02 AM   #19
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He also did this, something Jordan never did his entire career



Yah. That is to lose 4 out of 7. You can have your stats cheap ass loser
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Old 07-21-2016, 05:50 AM   #20
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Defensive rebounds are Lebron's only area of advantage, since his 1 assist edge is offset by more turnovers:


Playoffs (Per Game):
JORDAN:. 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 56.8 ts
LEBRON:. 27.9 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.8 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 56.7 ts

Playoffs (Per 100 Possessions):
JORDAN:. 43.3 pts.. 2.2 oreb.. 6.1 dreb.. 7.4 ast.. 4.0 tov.. 56.8 ts
LEBRON:. 36.4 pts.. 2.1 oreb.. 9.4 dreb.. 8.8 ast.. 4.6 tov.. 56.7 ts

Finals (Per Game):
JORDAN:. 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 48.1 fg
LEBRON:. 27.0 ppg.. 9.9 reb.. 7.2 apg.. 4.1 tov.. 45.1 fg


A team can win with less rebounds or assists, but never if they score less.. So scoring is a more important category than rebounds and assists.

And since #1 options control the scoring and flow more than anyone else (it's their job description), Jordan's massive scoring and efficiency advantage is far more important than Lebron's replaceable defensive rebounds against small ball lineups, or 1 assist edge achieved via Westbrook-like time of possession and turnovers.

Also, MJ faced far greater defensive attention because he averaged 15 more ppg than his 2nd option, compared to only 1 ppg for Lebron.. Despite the greater defensive attention, MJ still made all the game-winning plays for Pippen, whereas Kyrie made several for Lebron..

Finally, Lebron needed 7 games because he averaged 24 ppg and 6 turnovers through 4 games, before averaging 36 ppg for the final 3 games - but if he'd averaged 36 ppg for the entire series like MJ did in 91-93 Finals (36/7/8), then he wouldn't need a 7th game and therefore would've been more dominant like MJ.

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Old 07-21-2016, 06:37 AM   #21
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:14 AM   #22
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LET'S DO THIS!!!!!!

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Old 01-02-2018, 05:23 PM   #24
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This was the single GOAT achievement in NBA history.
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He also did this, something Jordan never did his entire career


Lose three games in a finals series??
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:36 PM   #28
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am i the only one who looks down on lebron stans?
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:40 PM   #29
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am i the only one who looks down on lebron stans?


You’re 5’5 and still haven’t graduated college

I don’t think you ‘look down’ to anyone
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:51 PM   #30
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You’re 5’5 and still haven’t graduated college

I don’t think you ‘look down’ to anyone


youre following me like a lapdog. You definitely look up to me loser.
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