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Old 12-30-2016, 04:13 PM   #241
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PFF looks at each football play made and rates it positive or minus. Like the plus minus hockey stat. Brady has been #1 overall in good plays versus bad, while Ryan is second.

So yes, Brady has better overall stats, when measured analytically. QB rating and Total QBR are not actual analytic stats.
PFF is also subjective. It's told us that Rodgers was the best quarterback in the league from 2011-2014, which I know you believe to have been Brady.

It said Palmer was the best last year, which I probably know believe was Brady as well.

It's a good measurement but not the only.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:48 PM   #242
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In order:

Matt Ryan
Brady/Rodgers
Elliot

I bet that is how the voting will turn as well. With Ryan getting like 50% of the votes, and Brady and Rodgers with 20% each and then Elliot might get a few votes.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:50 PM   #243
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PFF is also subjective. It's told us that Rodgers was the best quarterback in the league from 2011-2014, which I know you believe to have been Brady.

It said Palmer was the best last year, which I probably know believe was Brady as well.

It's a good measurement but not the only.

This is true when grades are reasonably arguable...............I mean they had Brady, Palmer, Newton really close if I remember.

When it is Brady by a WIDE MARGIN over Ryan, I don't see how it isn't clear.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:06 PM   #244
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I think Ryan should and will win it

But I also think Rodgers is the -real- MVP...he just doesn't deserve it this year
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Old 01-03-2017, 04:52 PM   #245
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https://www.all22.com/new-england-pa...arterback-2016

Pro Football Focus ✔ @PFF
Top-graded NFL QBs this season:

1. Tom Brady, 99.3
2. Matt Ryan, 93.1
3. Aaron Rodgers, 92.6
4. Andrew Luck, 92.4
5. Russell Wilson, 88.4

And this rating stat is considered to be much more accurate than QB Rating or ESPN's Total QBR by football experts.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:44 PM   #246
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Vegas now has Ryan in the lead.
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Old 01-04-2017, 08:50 PM   #247
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I don't care what any of the Brady haters say...Tom Brady is the real 2016 NFL MVP....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-SAA3aK0eI
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Old 01-04-2017, 08:59 PM   #248
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May as well post it for the fourth time in another thread.
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:06 PM   #249
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NFL.com has Brady at #1 best QB of 2016 also, based on a per game analysis.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...arend-rankings

1) Tom Brady

2) Matt Ryan

3) Aaron Rodgers

4) Andrew Luck

5) Derek Carr

6) Drew Brees

7) Dak Prescott

8) Matthew Stafford

9) Ben Roethlisberger

10) Russell Wilson

11) Philip Rivers

12) Carson Palmer

13) Kirk Cousins

14) Marcus Mariota

15) Jameis Winston

16) Cam Newton

17) Andy Dalton

18) Tyrod Taylor

19) Alex Smith

20) Sam Bradford

21) Joe Flacco

22) Trevor Siemian

23) Eli Manning

24) Ryan Tannehill

25) Carson Wentz

26) Colin Kaepernick

27) Blake Bortles

28) Ryan Fitzpatrick

29) Matt Barkley

30) Robert Griffin III

31) Brock Osweiler

32) Jared Goff
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:18 PM   #250
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Advanced metric stat.. quarterback accuracy on all passes thrown (MVP candidates)...

1. Tom Brady - 94%
2. Matt Ryan - 78%
3. Aaron Rodgers -67%
4. Matt Stafford - 64%
5. Dak Prescott - 62%

Yeah sure, but Brady isn't the MVP....
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:26 PM   #251
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http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/...aaron-rodgers/


STEVE SMITH: TOM BRADY ‘SEVERAL STEPS’ ABOVE AARON RODGERS

Steve Smith said Tuesday that when it comes to measuring Tom Brady vs. Aaron Rodgers, it’s not much of a contest.

“You know, Tom Brady is doing a great job without [Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski], without some of the big name guys he’s had in the past, but that makes his legacy even bigger,” Smith told ESPN. “Because no matter who you put out there, he makes those guys better. He’s very methodical, he can carve you up, just like you said about [Packers QB] Aaron Rodgers. But I think he’s a step above Aaron Rodgers. Several steps.”

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Old 01-04-2017, 09:45 PM   #252
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Have you ever made a post that wasn't about Brady?
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:27 PM   #253
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Have you ever made a post that wasn't about Brady?
Go to the nba forum
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:00 PM   #254
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Yeah I meant in here

I know he doesn't have 16k posts in this section alone
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