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Old 01-02-2017, 03:21 AM   #1
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Default Remember, MVP Stands For Most Valuable Player

not best stats.

Patriots went 3-1 without Brady. Historically do well without him.

Take Aaron Rodgers off the packers??

Put jacoby brisset on That packers team???



Belechek the real MVP of the patriots.

League MVP- Most valuable player - is Aaron Rodgers.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:42 AM   #2
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what teams did they play when they went 3 - 1

and did they not score 0 points against the same team that they scored 41 on with Brady?

Aaron Rodgers has more TDs and played more games but Brady won more games, 11-1 in 12 games vs 10-6 in 16 games

Patriots have a great history without Brady - he goes down for the season and they go from nearly pulling off the undefeated season to missing the Playoffs.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:24 AM   #3
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Pats went 11-5 with Cassel and 10-6 with Brady the following year.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:21 PM   #4
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Patriots with Jimmy G. against Miami AT HOME in an early season game with nothing on the line...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400874541

Patriots 31 Dolphins 24

Jimmy G.

18 - 26
232 yards
3 touchdowns

Jimmy G. is injured late in the game, and is out for the next 6 weeks (but is obviously more valuable than Brady, despite not being able to stay healthy - that is according to all Brady haters in the world).

Patriots with Tom Brady against Miami ON THE ROAD in a game with huge
playoff seeding implications for both teams.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400874642


Patriots 35
Dolphins 14

Tom Brady

25 - 33
276 yards
3 touchdowns


Patriots with Jacoby Brissett against Buffalo AT HOME in an early season game with nothing on the line...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400874663

Bills 16 Patriots 0

Jacoby Brissett

17 - 27
205 yards
0 touchdowns

Patriots with Tom Brady against Buffalo ON THE ROAD.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400874619

Patriots 41
Bills 25

Tom Brady

22 - 33
315 yards
4 touchdowns

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Tom Brady accounted for an ENORMOUS percentage increase in team points, yards passing, and touchdowns in games against common opponents as what the backups of the Patriots played in. He accounted for a 2-0 record in the same games, versus a 1-1 record of the backups, and the backups played the games AT HOME, with nothing on the line, while he payed the games ON THE ROAD, with playoffs and seeding on the line.

The Patriots offense averaged 20 points a game in the first 4 games of the season, playing most of their games at home (3 out of 4 games at home), and against mostly bad defensive teams.

The Patriots, with Brady as the starter, then averaged 30 points a game in the last 12 games, playing most of their games on the road (7 out of 12 games on the road), and playing against defenses like Denver, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Seattle.............


With a much higher degree of difficulty, majority road games versus majority home games, against much tougher teams and defenses, and with crucial games down the stretch, versus early season games........the Patriots saw a 50% percent INCREASE in offensive production with Tom Brady over the backups, including the "best backup quarterback in the NFL" according to the talking head morons at ESPN.............

All those first 4 games proved was that Tom Brady is a DRAMATIC increase in production from the QB position, team points scored, and the Patriots winning games, versus "the best backup QB in the NFL", and the guy talking heads are saying will be a top 8-12 starter in the NFL, and Brissett.

The first 4 games confirmed Brady's status at GOAT, to anyone with an IQ over 80.

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Old 01-02-2017, 02:22 PM   #5
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Pats went 11-5 with Cassel and 10-6 with Brady the following year.

Broncos went 5-2 without Peyton.............

Obviously, Brock Osweiler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P. Manning.
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Peyton was not "Peyton" last year in the regular season.

He was probably the worst starting QB in the league, or in the bottom 5.

Playoffs he played well enough besides a below average SB game.
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Peyton was not "Peyton" last year in the regular season.

He was probably the worst starting QB in the league, or in the bottom 5.

Playoffs he played well enough besides a below average SB game.

If this statement is true..............

Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassell and 10-6 with Tom Brady the next year.

This statements is also true...

Broncos went 5-2 without Peyton Manning in 2016, with Brock Osweiler as the starter. The same Brock Osweiler that is probably the worst starting QB in the NFL.

Newsflash, your Brady hater talking points 101 are not actually going to work in any discussion where someone else is not a Brady hater and actually has an IQ over 100. Keep on trolling though....


Also, once again, Patriots did not go 11-5 with Matt Cassel as the starter, they went 10-5. Something also pointed out to you numerous times, yet you continue to pretend otherwise, because you post on hater talking points, and not actual facts or truth.
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:12 PM   #8
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Cassel came in and accounted for almost 300 yards in that first game. I'll credit him the victor because he played most of the game.

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If this statement is true..............

Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassell and 10-6 with Tom Brady the next year.

This statements is also true...

Broncos went 5-2 without Peyton Manning in 2016, with Brock Osweiler as the starter. The same Brock Osweiler that is probably the worst starting QB in the NFL.


What's the point? Manning was maybe the worst starting QB in the league, replaced by same caliber of garbage, and they still won?

You make no sense once again. Congrats.
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Euro league constantly bashes espn but then uses their services to help his points.



Kinda sums up the complete idiocy of him

Worst troll in the world.

Tom Brady got injured in the first quarter. Matt cassel played the rest

3.5 out of 4 quarters means you won the game.

Stop being a FUCCIN clown boy.

Patriots went 11-5 with cassell.

Bellechek the real MVP.
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As far as "valuable" is concerned Carr has to be in the convo.

Leads the Raiders to a 12-3 record, has 5 game winning drives (NFL Record), plays with a bad defense, & team totally collapsed without him yesterday vs Denver.
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As far as "valuable" is concerned Carr has to be in the convo.

Leads the Raiders to a 12-3 record, has 5 game winning drives (NFL Record), plays with a bad defense, & team totally collapsed without him yesterday vs Denver.

No doubt. For sure.

He would get a high place vote from me for sure

And will get some votes
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As far as "valuable" is concerned Carr has to be in the convo.

Leads the Raiders to a 12-3 record, has 5 game winning drives (NFL Record), plays with a bad defense, & team totally collapsed without him yesterday vs Denver.

5 is not a record.

Luck had 7 his rookie year alone.
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Kinda sums up the complete idiocy of him

Worst troll in the world.

Tom Brady got injured in the first quarter. Matt cassel played the rest

3.5 out of 4 quarters means you won the game.

Stop being a FUCCIN clown boy.

Patriots went 11-5 with cassell.

Bellechek the real MVP.

You have to start the game as the QB to get the win or loss. These are facts. Stop using your own personal opinions as "facts".
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:01 PM   #14
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Not to mention the Patriots have the #1 ranked defense if you go by points per game.
I'm sure that had nothing to do with them being dominant right?
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:07 PM   #15
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You have to start the game as the QB to get the win or loss. These are facts. Stop using your own personal opinions as "facts".

Hey shit for brains..

Which one is it?

Espn is the worst company ever or a great source to prove your points??

IDIOT GONORHEA RIDDEN RASH
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