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Old 01-07-2017, 12:55 AM   #1
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Default Is Tom Brady Overrated??

Or bellechek underrated ?

He's a dink and dunker

His first two superbowls he was a manager and defense led team.

Bellechek is the real goat.

I argued Brady was top 3 goat but now....??

This is just too damning ...

Bellechek THE TRUE UNDISPUTED GOAT









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Old 01-07-2017, 01:00 AM   #2
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Tom Bradys greatest attribute, and he's the best of all time at it.......is short accuracy. He puts those passes on a dime where his guys don't have to break stride more consistently than any QB I've ever seen.

It's smart coaching to use this strength of his and maximize it.

Can't hold short passes against him at all in my opinion.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:00 AM   #3
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Default Re: Is Tom Brady Overrated??

He is underrated if anything and constantly thrown under the bus by casual fans like you.
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Default Re: Is Tom Brady Overrated??

He's rated GOAT, so he can only be overrated... Or rated spot on

My gut feeling is that he is rated a spot or two too high.

I still have Montana >
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:05 AM   #5
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He's rated GOAT, so he can only be overrated... Or rated spot on

My gut feeling is that he is rated a spot or two too high.

I still have Montana >
curious. why montana?
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He is underrated if anything and constantly thrown under the bus by casual fans like you.

Casual fans??


He's accurate. He's good. But goat?

He's always been considered goat cus of his rangs.

Bellechek is the true goat.

Like I typed on the MVP thread,... take Aaron Rodgers off packers they a 6-10 team. With him they're division champs



Take Brady off patriots????

With rookies and qbs that never stOarted , they 3-1.

Alex smith is accurate. How many rangs would have he won if he was there as long as Brady????

Seriously. Think about it. Those defenses. Those coaches?
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In my opinion there is a very weak argument for Montana over Brady now.

His biggest competition is Manning because you can make the argument 2 rings + all Mannings individual awards/stats can stand up to Brady.

Montana has no edge, except one which is superbowl performance - that's not really something that would hold much weight over the numerous other categories Brady beats Montana in.

Montana is basically Brady with worse stats/worse longevity when comparing careers.

Montana has played 192 games, Brady 237 and shows no signs of slowing up. That's 3 more seasons worth of games basically.
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Aaron Rodgers on those patriots teams would have at LEAST 4 rangs.


With more tds.

Gtfo.
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Casual fans??


He's accurate. He's good. But goat?

He's always been considered goat cus of his rangs.

Bellechek is the true goat.

Like I typed on the MVP thread,... take Aaron Rodgers off packers they a 6-10 team. With him they're division champs



Take Brady off patriots????

With rookies and qbs that never stOarted , they 3-1.

Alex smith is accurate. How many rangs would have he won if he was there as long as Brady????

Seriously. Think about it. Those defenses. Those coaches?
How many rAngs would Bill have one had he stayed in Cleveland?
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:12 AM   #10
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7.5
7.5
7.7
7.5
7.3


these are the Y/A of 5 of the top 10 QBs of all time, I let you guess which one is which


Most of those wins came from the 2008 season, which the Patrios played in weak schedule, the SOS being -2.40, compared to the season before .34


Brady is also third in career passer rating btw
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Aaron Rodgers on those patriots teams would have at LEAST 4 rangs.


With more tds.

Gtfo.
Aaron Rodgers is good I respect him. But he gets the case of "happy feet" in tough pressure situations far more then Tom.
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Aaron Rodgers on those patriots teams would have at LEAST 4 rangs.


With more tds.

Gtfo.
If and buts are stupid

We live in the real world, not some made up fantasy bullshit

Brady with Peyton's weapons on offense would be the undisputed goat because of his stats, you could say the same with Peyton with Brady's top defense because defense wins rings.

You work with what you're given
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In my opinion there is a very weak argument for Montana over Brady now.

His biggest competition is Manning because you can make the argument 2 rings + all Mannings individual awards/stats can stand up to Brady.

Montana has no edge, except one which is superbowl performance - that's not really something that would hold much weight over the numerous other categories Brady beats Montana in.

Montana is basically Brady with worse stats/worse longevity when comparing careers.

Montana has played 192 games, Brady 237 and shows no signs of slowing up. That's 3 more seasons worth of games basically.
Youre just looking at numbers and he doesn't have worse stats of you adjust for era

Bless' point is system QB...Belechik

Montana was the greatest post season QB ever

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Montana holds postseason records for most games with a passer rating over 100.0 (12) and is second in career postseason touchdown passes (45), passing yards (5,772) and games with 300+ passing yards (6, tied with Kurt Warner). He also tied Terry Bradshaw's record for consecutive playoff games with at least two touchdown passes (7), though this record has since been broken by Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco.[47] In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8. Montana led his team to victory in each game, and was the first player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards. Montana also held the record for most Super Bowl pass completions (83) and still holds the record for pass attempts (122) without throwing an interception.

Brady I feel has gotten lucky a couple times in the post season...Tuck rule, not running Lynch, etc
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This System QB argument is so stupid,


For example, a guy who was horrible in the USFL, couldn't do shit in the ****ing Buccaneers and was thought to be a bust, stepped into the 49ers for Montana and put up better numbers than him, hell he averaged better career numbers.

The moment Joe goes to the Chiefs they run WCO. Is this a coincidence? Teams don't just plug QBs in and expect them to fit into the system, systems are built around the QBs you have.


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Old 01-07-2017, 01:28 AM   #15
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And Bill Belichek doesn't even run the offense

Josh McDaniels has all say on offense, and iirc Bill O'Brien did before
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