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Old 01-07-2017, 12:29 AM   #16
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How many rAngs would Bill have one had he stayed in Cleveland?

If he got the exact same defense and say.... Alex smith???


3 or 4 depending if we ran it or not.
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:34 AM   #17
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This System QB argument is so stupid,


For example, a guy who was horrible in the UFL, couldn't do shit in the ****ing Buccaneers and was thought to be a bust, stepped into the 49ers for Montana and put up better numbers than him, hell he averaged better career numbers.

The moment Joe goes to the Chiefs they run WCO. Is this a coincidence? Teams don't just plug QBs in and expect them to fit into the system, systems are built around the QBs you have.



That would make sense if THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE WASNT ALMOST IDENTICAL IN THE GAMES BRADY DIDNT STOART.


18 games is a good sample size.

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Youre just looking at numbers and he doesn't have worse stats of you adjust for era

Bless' point is system QB...Belechik

Montana was the greatest post season QB ever



Brady I feel has gotten lucky a couple times in the post season...Tuck rule, not running Lynch, etc
Debatable.

23 playoff wins, 4 SB wins and 6 conf titles > 16 playoff wins, 4 SB wins, & 4 conf titles

Add on top of that he has locked up many postseason and even some regular season records. AND played in a salary cap era AND didn't have a goat receiver with STICKUM hands catching all of his passes. Yeah in fact he is much better then Montana.
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If he got the exact same defense and say.... Alex smith???


3 or 4 depending if we ran it or not.
You have lost your fOnking mind. Can't have a discussion with this much idiocy involved.
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Debatable.

23 playoff wins, 4 SB wins and 6 conf titles > 16 playoff wins, 4 SB wins, & 4 conf titles

Add on top of that he has locked up many postseason and even some regular season records. AND played in a salary cap era AND didn't have a goat receiver with STICKUM hands catching all of his passes. Yeah in fact he is much better then Montana.

I think pt broke that down cuz.

How many total career playoff games did they play?
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:38 AM   #21
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That would make sense if THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE WASNT ALMOST IDENTICAL IN THE GAMES BRADY DIDNT STOART.


18 games is a good sample size.


what a surprise, patriots draft back up QBs that fit the scheme that's currently put into place? If other teams don't do this no wonder they suck compared to the patriots

And i already debunked your dumbass argumet
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7.5
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these are the Y/A of 5 of the top 10 QBs of all time, I let you guess which one is which


Most of those wins came from the 2008 season, which the Patrios played in weak schedule, the SOS being -2.40, compared to the season before .34


Brady is also third in career passer rating btw
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and jimmy garrapolo will be a top 10 QB in the league. He's already being shopped around for a 1st round pick so it's not surprising why the won against the disappointing cardinals and the same dolphins who started 1-4
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You have lost your fOnking mind. Can't have a discussion with this much idiocy involved.

Think.

And btw imma have my niggah on your avatar give you a FUCC you next time I see him.

Alex smith is very very accurate. Especially on short passes.

He has more game winning drives than you think.

Doesn't turn the ball over.

Those defenses???

Those coaches???
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Think.

And btw imma have my niggah on your avatar give you a FUCC you next time I see him.

Alex smith is very very accurate. Especially on short passes.

He has more game winning drives than you think.

Doesn't turn the ball over.

Those defenses???

Those coaches???
So you think he would win 4 superbowls because of that?
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Alex Smith did have a top defense tho and Jim harbaugh

Guess what happened? 13-3 with a passer rating of 90
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Montana best post season QB?

He had two of the best playoff runs, which is fantastic. Props to him.

He has also had a bunch of stinkers and average games.

3 picks 81 rating
200 yards 1 TD/1 pick 74 rating
3 picks 82 rating
1TD/2INt 60 rating
1 INT/0 TDS 65 rating
98 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT 34 rating
109 tards, 0 TDS, 1 INT 42 rating
125 yards, 0 TDS, 1 INT 39 rating

That's over 35 percent of his playoff resume.

Overall he's a great playoff performer, but he's not some untouchable playoff QB.
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what a surprise, patriots draft back up QBs that fit the scheme that's currently put into place? If other teams don't do this no wonder they suck compared to the patriots

And i already debunked your dumbass argumet



Stop it.

Just stop.

Your knit picking proves how the NFL is the NFL.

So 1-4 at the time is not impressive but then next year when that SAME TEAM will be 10-6 and then Brady is god because sos is better???



Seriously bruh. Seriously. You realize how dumb that is?
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So you think he would win 4 superbowls because of that?

A couple fo sho
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Alex Smith did have a top defense tho and Jim harbaugh

Guess what happened? 13-3 with a passer rating of 90


Not bad.

And how many years were they together??

And now harbaugh = bellechek??

Got it.

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A couple fo sho
No. Do you understand how fast Brady makes a decision in the pocket? He is insanely fast at finding his target. Alex Smith does not possess that trait. Just stop.
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