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Old 01-09-2017, 09:44 PM   #16
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Revisionist history.

Not the same defense. Avril got hurt early (who was beasting) and the dagger was losing I believe Lane their nickle corner. Tharold Simon had to come in and he got absolutely torched all game.
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And Brady destroyed that same defense

Ouch
Everyone knows that defense is different at home than on the road/neutral site.
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Everyone knows that defense is different at home than on the road/neutral site.
And the best part is that Brady didn't really "destroy" that defense.

His completion% was good but he also turned the ball over twice and didn't make any big plays.

And we all know that they should have lost that game.

Which is strange to me. If Pete Carroll does what he should have done...Brady hasn't won a super bowl since 2004.

I realize the Patriots could have easily won in 2007 or 2011. But they scored 14 and 17 points. Not like Brady had great games that happened to be foiled by factors out of his control.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:06 PM   #19
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Everyone knows that defense is different at home than on the road/neutral site.

15.4 points per game allowed at home in Wilson Era.

17.3 points per game allowed away in Wilson Era.


I was expecting a bigger difference to be honest because like you I thought their defense was much better at home.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:06 PM   #20
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And the best part is that Brady didn't really "destroy" that defense.

His completion% was good but he also turned the ball over twice and didn't make any big plays.

And we all know that they should have lost that game.

Which is strange to me. If Pete Carroll does what he should have done...Brady hasn't won a super bowl since 2004.

I realize the Patriots could have easily won in 2007 or 2011. But they scored 14 and 17 points. Not like Brady had great games that happened to be foiled by factors out of his control.
Jimmy Kearse catch negates a good ****ing defensive play

And the patriots were down 10 starting the 4th. Don't forget that
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:08 PM   #21
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15.4 points per game allowed at home in Wilson Era.

17.3 points per game allowed away in Wilson Era.


I was expecting a bigger difference to be honest because like you I thought their defense was much better at home.
Lol

Big difference alright
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Revisionist history.

Not the same defense. Avril got hurt early (who was beasting) and the dagger was losing I believe Lane their nickle corner. Tharold Simon had to come in and he got absolutely torched all game.
2 defenders out of the 11 on the field

Not even their key guys like Kam, Thomas and Sherman

I can also pull the list of injuries the patriots offense had, but no one cares

No ****ing excuses
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:15 PM   #23
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When a guy like Tharold Simon is pressed into action and put in one vs. one matchups, it shows up no matter who's around him.

"After Jeremy Lane was forced from the game after his interception, Brady went to work on Simon targeting him 11 times to collect 91 yards and two scores against the second-year corner. Further adding to Simon’s struggles were two missed tackles, one each from Brandon LaFell and Julian Edelman.
Signature Stat: In his two playoff appearances Simon was targeted a combined 21 times, surrendering 17 catches for 205 yards and four touchdowns; totting up to a passer rating of 146.9."

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Brady had a 101.1 passer rating that game, the highest anybody had against the LOB in the playoffs at that time

But he didn't destroy them tho
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Jimmy Kearse catch negates a good ****ing defensive play

And the patriots were down 10 starting the 4th. Don't forget that
Wasn't about a good defensive play, but a complete brain fart from the oppositions coach.
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Brady had a 101.1 passer rating that game, the highest anybody had against the LOB in the playoffs at that time

But he didn't destroy them tho
I mean..no. Destroying is what Aaron Rodgers did to the Falcons in 2011.

The most incredibly quarterbacked game I've ever seen.

Brady played well. But again...he turned the ball over twice and the pats shouldn't have won the game. You know you were lucky.
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Wasn't about a good defensive play, but a complete brain fart from the oppositions coach.
They ran the play multiple time during the season and not once was intercepted


It's stupid to criticize because we know the result, had it beeen a touch down no one would've even batted an eye
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I mean..no. Destroying is what Aaron Rodgers did to the Falcons in 2011.

The most incredibly quarterbacked game I've ever seen.

Brady played well. But again...he turned the ball over twice and the pats shouldn't have won the game. You know you were lucky.
They were lucky to even be near the ****ing goal line! You didn't see that ****ing catch?
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That miracle catch was on first down, not like it was make or break. They still would move the ball either way...
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They ran the play multiple time during the season and not once was intercepted


It's stupid to criticize because we know the result, had it beeen a touch down no one would've even batted an eye
Lynch was the best short yardage back in the game. Like...by far. Had they scored, no...no one would have batted an eyelash because they would have won the super bowl.

But objectively speaking it was horrendous. You KNOW that..

But look, Brady is the GOAT. I know that.

However, I don't think he's superior to Rodgers..if that makes sense. Brady isnt the GOAT because of his every day superiority over his peers like Rodgers, Peyton, or even Brees.

What makes him the GOAT is his level-headed consistency over a 15+ year span.

For most of his career Rodgers has played with a garbage run game, a mediocre defense, and an even more mediocre coaching staff. Not fair to fault him for not winning hella Super Bowls even though he plays the position as good as anyone ever.

The only thing I'll say for Brady over Rodgers is that Rodgers sometimes seems to put out a vibe of superiority over his own teammates, which obviously can have an effect when there's that many egos on an NFL squad.

Peyton was the same way.

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