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Old 01-17-2017, 10:32 PM   #16
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You're naming guys that match him in certain areas (I also notice that you haven't mentioned Peyton once in any of this. Wonder why ) I know he's not in a league of his own at everything. You can't read. No one COMBINED ALL of those things like Rodgers does.

Favre wasn't as accurate nor did he have the decision making. Elways release, accuracy AND decision making were inferior to Rodgers.

Peyton didn't have a great arm or anything.

Favre..........you guys just make these blanket statements like, "no one could make a throw like that, except Rodgers"......same things the media claims, then you guys repeat it.

Actually, Favre could and did make similar throws plenty of times.

Favre was a turnover waiting to happen.....but he was more athletic, quicker, faster, was more mobile than Rodgers, had a bigger arm than Rodgers does, and he was able to throw off balance better also.

Now people just want to make up bullshit, and claim Rodgers is "the greatest ever" at all of those things. Really? He's actually not even the best Packers QB at those things.

Rodgers clearly is a way better decision maker than Favre was (one of the best at not throwing interceptions, versus one of the worst).......but Favre was an absolute freak of nature athlete and a total freaking beast of a QB....Rodgers has absolutely nothing on Favre's arm or his athletic ability....

But to hear people now, Rodgers stans, the media talk about it, it's like Favre wouldn't even be in the same discussion with Rodgers in those ways.

It's total and obvious media agenda driven bullshit and hype.
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Peyton didn't have a great arm or anything.

Favre..........you guys just make these blanket statements like, "no one could make a throw like that, except Rodgers"......same things the media claims, then you guys repeat it.

Actually, Favre could and did make similar throws plenty of times.

Favre was a turnover waiting to happen.....but he was more athletic, quicker, faster, was more mobile than Rodgers, had a bigger arm than Rodgers does, and he was able to throw off balance better also.

Now people just want to make up bullshit, and claim Rodgers is "the greatest ever" at all of those things. Really? He's actually not even the best Packers QB at those things.

Rodgers clearly is a way better decision maker than Favre was (one of the best at not throwing interceptions, versus one of the worst).......but Favre was an absolute freak of nature athlete and a total freaking beast of a QB....Rodgers has absolutely nothing on Favre's arm or his athletic ability....

But to hear people now, Rodgers stans, the media talk about it, it's like Favre wouldn't even be in the same discussion with Rodgers in those ways.

It's total and obvuious media agenda driven bullshit and hype.
Peytons accuracy, timing, and release are among the best ever.

And I'm tired and you're blatantly refusing to address my point. Night.
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Old 01-17-2017, 10:42 PM   #18
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Peytons accuracy, timing, and release are among the best ever.

And I'm tired and you're blatantly refusing to address my point. Night.

Because you don't have a point. If someone points out the fact that Rodgers isn't actually the best at all those things and how it is just media talking points, you have no rebuttal.

It's clear as day that Rodgers is not actually any of the crap the media claims he is. Just a quick run down of past QBs proves that.

If they would just say he is one of the best, one of the few that could do this or that, or whatever......

but they go into crazy hyperbole that he's the best ever at everything, the only QB ever that could do this, that, and everything else........

No, it's complete and total bullshit, and anyone believing it is easily manipulated by sports media.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:49 PM   #19
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Nobody has thrown a better football in difficult situations than Aaron Rodgers.

I know more about football than mostly everybody here (97th percentile) and he's the best talent I've seen at the position.

The dude was having his worst season and somehow by the time the NFC Championship game rolls around, there were 3-4 LEGEND status type throws this campaign alone.

Rodgers is the most talented, has the most strengths out of all QBs who have played.
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Old 01-18-2017, 09:06 AM   #20
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Because you don't have a point. If someone points out the fact that Rodgers isn't actually the best at all those things
You really can't read. Or you're just trolling. Either way I'm wasting my time.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:41 AM   #21
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Nobody has thrown a better football in difficult situations than Aaron Rodgers.

I know more about football than mostly everybody here (97th percentile) and he's the best talent I've seen at the position.

The dude was having his worst season and somehow by the time the NFC Championship game rolls around, there were 3-4 LEGEND status type throws this campaign alone.

Rodgers is the most talented, has the most strengths out of all QBs who have played.

*thinks about it*

*realizes how many dumbasses post here*

*agrees with statement*

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Old 01-18-2017, 02:02 PM   #22
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You are with me in the top 3 percentile, brother.
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Old 01-18-2017, 04:48 PM   #23
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Nobody has thrown a better football in difficult situations than Aaron Rodgers.

I know more about football than mostly everybody here (97th percentile) and he's the best talent I've seen at the position.

The dude was having his worst season and somehow by the time the NFC Championship game rolls around, there were 3-4 LEGEND status type throws this campaign alone.

Rodgers is the most talented, has the most strengths out of all QBs who have played
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Wrong. No way does he have the natural talent than Favre and Cunningham had. Probably not that of Elway either.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:30 PM   #24
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No quarterback can combine release, arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and decision making/intelligence like Rodgers can.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:37 PM   #25
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No quarterback can combine release, arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and decision making/intelligence like Rodgers can.

Rodgers is good at decision making in terms of not throwing interceptions...

His overall decision making isn't that great and his QB intelligence seems fairly high, but definitely way lower than guys like P. Manning, Brady, Montana...I'd put Brees over him in intelligence also.

Rodgers' accuracy is hugely overrated by the bullshit media.

Even Kurt Warner was much more accurate.

Arm strength and release - Marino would beat Rodgers in those two categories by leaps and bounds, and then some.

If we talk just arm strength

Marino
Favre

Hell, guys like Jeff George and Ryan Mallett have way bigger arms than Rodgers.

Mobility -

Cunningham
Vick
Young
Favre
Elway
Staubach
Tarkenton
McNair
Newton
Kaepernick

and etc. and on and on (guys with same kind of mobility or better)

Hell, freaking Alex Smith is every bit as mobile.

Anyone that buys this media bullshit, that Rodgers is the best ever at everything, and that he is the only QB ever that can do a certain thing, make a certain play, make a certain pass - anyone that believes that is a media kool-aid drinker.

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Rodgers is good at decision making in terms of not throwing interceptions...

His overall decision making isn't that great and his QB intelligence seems fairly high, but definitely way lower than guys like P. Manning, Brady, Montana...I'd put Brees over him in intelligence also.

Rodgers' accuracy is hugely overrated by the bullshit media.

Even Kurt Warner was much more accurate.

Arm strength and release - Marino would beat Rodgers in those two categories by leaps and bounds, and then some.

If we talk just arm strength

Marino
Favre

Hell, guys like Jeff George and Ryan Mallett have way bigger arms than Rodgers.

Mobility -

Cunningham
Vick
Young
Favre
Elway
Staubach
Tarkenton

Hell, freaking Alex Smith is every bit as mobile.

Anyone that buys this media bullshit, that Rodgers is the best ever at everything, and that he is the only QB ever that can do a certain thing, make a certain play, make a certain pass - anyone that believes that is a media kool-aid drinker.
Again, no one can COMBINE ALL 5 OF THOSE CATEGORIES like Rodgers can.

COMBINE ALL 5.

Combine...all 5
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:46 PM   #27
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Again, no one can COMBINE ALL 5 OF THOSE CATEGORIES like Rodgers can.

COMBINE ALL 5.

Combine...all 5

Elway - might be debatable on accuracy and release
Montana - pretty much could do all of that

Young - could do all of that (not as strong of an arm - but more accurate from 0-50 yards)

Favre and Cunningham were flat out MORE physically gifted and talented (which also puts that Rodger's BS media claim down).
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Elway - might be debatable on accuracy and release
Montana - pretty much could do all of that

Young - could do all of that (not as strong of an arm - but more accurate from 0-50 yards)
Elway was not nearly as accurate, quick-released, nor intelligent. He threw almost as many picks as touchdowns in his career.

Montana couldn't move or throw as well deep as Rodgers.

Youngs arm wasn't as strong at all. He's the only one that pretty much equals Rodgers on everything. And even then Rodgers was probably a tad better at all of them, particularly arm strength.
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Elway was not nearly as accurate, quick-released, nor intelligent. He threw almost as many picks as touchdowns in his career.

Montana couldn't move or throw as well deep as Rodgers.

Youngs arm wasn't as strong at all. He's the only one that pretty much equals Rodgers on everything. And even then Rodgers was probably a tad better at all of them, particularly arm strength.

False.
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False.
You just have a different pair of eyes than most people then.

I'll even give you Steve young. Before Rodgers, he was probably the most complete QB ever. A lot of people have him in their top 10 (some even top 5) despite only having 5 or 6 healthy seasons as a starter in his career.

They used their eyes and it told them that he was greatness, despite not having the longevity or accolades that some others do. Rodgers is the same. You best get on board.
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