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Old 01-26-2017, 12:02 PM   #16
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There is no NE System.

Coaches who branch out from under Belichicks wings have all failed. This means Belichick is the system. He can't be replicated.

He's not only the coach he's the General Manager.
Brady plays offense, what he does on offense is all with the OC. We've seen how the Patriots went from a conservative team to a pass heavy after Weis left.
We've seen the OC in other teams and none of them can replicate what they do in NE
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:16 PM   #17
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Brady actually spends a lot of time with Josh McDaniels


People talk about peyton being a field general often overlook how good Brady is at commanding an offense and reading defenses
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:37 PM   #18
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You're very misguided if you think for a second Belichick doesn't have his hands all over the offensive game plan. He has been mic'd up telling Josh what to do during the game at times.

SMH at these Brady fans.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:39 PM   #19
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Yes he does, but that's rarely


I mean what would I know since I watch every ****ing game
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:46 PM   #20
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Can't believe this is still going on.


Even I, who can't stand Brady, have to give props when props are due.


He's damn near close to the GOAT imo. If he wins against the Falcons then I think I'm lucky enough to say I saw two GOATS play in my lifetime (other being MJ of course)
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:17 PM   #21
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Except they don't, not passing yards

Matt Cassell averaged 230 YPG, Brady has averaged almost 260, 300 with that same roster the year before

And in 2016 they averaged 210 YPG without Brady.

You're the dumbest ***** out here I swear. Every turn you take you getting owned


TOTAL OFFENSE MOARK ASS NIGGAH

NOT PASSING YOARDS. TOTAL

BITCH ASS NIGGAH.

BELLECHEK'S GAME PLANNING AND COACHING IS THE REAL GOAT.

NOW GET OFF YOUR MOMS WI-FI AND GO GET A JOB
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:20 PM   #22
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Are you kidding me? Are we leaving out the fact they got shut out by the Bills and dropped 41 on them with Brady a couple weeks later? And it's not like he threw 3 TDs to Gronk, he threw 4 TDs total, to 4 different receivers, 4 TDs was how many Garoppolo and Jacoby threw in total the first 4 games

They go 3 - 1 without Brady, but with Brady they have lost once (to the Seahawks which they should have won if not for the non-call) and gone undefeated the rest of the way to the SB

oh wow they go 10 - 5 without Brady in 2008 and miss the Playoffs when they go undefeated the season before

Do we leave out the fact the Patriots were 5-11 in 2000 with Bledsoe and 0 - 2 with Bledsoe in 2001? whereas with Brady they go 11 - 3

hmm

If you leave this bias aside and put all games together, they are 18 - 18 without Brady during his career in New England



1. Gronk pushes off EVERY FUCCIN PLAY. he engaged kam with a forearm. Gronk gets away with opi almost every play. Pushes off every time. Gtfo

2. I swear y'all are bi polar.

Whenever Brady wins its wins.

But when he's not in there is some long winded explanation why the patriots won

It's pathetic.

BELLECHEK IS THE REAL GOAT.
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:23 PM   #23
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Lmao yeah total yards, because Brady somehow is having carries and rushing with the ball too right?

What we had in 07? 6500 yards? Did we even sniff 6000 in 08? In a weak defensive schedule?

Lmao you're dumb
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:26 PM   #24
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Lmao yeah total yards, because Brady somehow is having carries and rushing with the ball too right?

What we had in 07? 6500 yards? Did we even sniff 6000 in 08? In a weak defensive schedule?

Lmao you're dumb

BELLECHEK IS THE GOAT

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BELLECHEK IS THE MASTER


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Old 01-26-2017, 03:43 PM   #25
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Can't believe this is still going on.


Even I, who can't stand Brady, have to give props when props are due.

yeah, for sure


this is a dumb thread title. you're trying to force people into deminishing the achievements of one of the best coaches of all time and one of the best QBs of all time.
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:44 PM   #26
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BELLECHEK IS THE GOAT

18 GAMES HO

BELLECHEK IS THE MASTER



so with brady:


win percentage goes up

pass ypg goes up

scoring goes up


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13-5 without Brady in lineup

Offense actually gets more yOards a game without Brady after 18 GAME SAMPLE.


We ain't typing about 2,3,4 games. 18 games.

Patriots 13-5 without Brady.

Bellechek > Brady.

No doubt about it.

It's 18-19 without Brady.

STOP IT.
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:11 PM   #28
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Are you kidding me? Are we leaving out the fact they got shut out by the Bills and dropped 41 on them with Brady a couple weeks later? And it's not like he threw 3 TDs to Gronk, he threw 4 TDs total, to 4 different receivers, 4 TDs was how many Garoppolo and Jacoby threw in total the first 4 games

They go 3 - 1 without Brady, but with Brady they have lost once (to the Seahawks which they should have won if not for the non-call) and gone undefeated the rest of the way to the SB

oh wow they go 10 - 5 without Brady in 2008 and miss the Playoffs when they go undefeated the season before

Do we leave out the fact the Patriots were 5-11 in 2000 with Bledsoe and 0 - 2 with Bledsoe in 2001? whereas with Brady they go 11 - 3

hmm

If you leave this bias aside and put all games together, they are 18 - 18 without Brady during his career in New England

Actually, it's 18-19.

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Old 01-26-2017, 04:13 PM   #29
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There is no NE System.

Coaches who branch out from under Belichicks wings have all failed. This means Belichick is the system. He can't be replicated.

He's not only the coach he's the General Manager.


Belichick's head coaching regular season record without Tom Brady = 54-63

Belichick's head coaching post season record without Tom Brady = 1-1

Belichick's overall head coaching record without Tom Brady = 55-64

Belichick's head coaching regular season record on the Patriots without Tom Brady = 18-19

Belichick's head coaching post season record on the Patriots without Tom Brady = never made playoffs


Yeah....it's obviously Belichick that is 100% responsible for the greatest dynasty ever...


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Old 01-26-2017, 04:20 PM   #30
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This is not a vs matter. They both need each other. To think someone that was drafted in the 6th round would be at the same all time level if he was in a different organization is ludicrous. At the same time, there is no telling if Belichick becomes an all time great coach without Brady. Even though I am more likely to believe Belichick likely does win at least 1 or 2 without him as opposed to Brady even getting a chance to play.

How often are 6th round picks even given the chance to play a game? At such a high profile position?

Plenty of starting QBs were drafted in the 6th or 7th round, or were not even drafted at all.

Tony Romo wasn't even drafted.

Kurt Warner wasn't even drafted.

Steve Young was taken in the SUPPLEMENTAL draft.

etc., etc., etc.

Stop showing your obvious lack of football knowledge.
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