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Old 05-18-2017, 11:46 AM   #271
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I ratter give Bradley the max then IT if IT doesn't show up in the series

Really? I ****in love me some Avery Bradley. Great hustle, spot-up shooting, and defense, but his piss poor ball control would limit the amount I'd prefer paying him every year. If I was Danny, $16 mill a year. Tops.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:49 PM   #272
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I dont understand why people say ingram is a bust, dude is young and its not like everyone is born like lebron who can dominate right away but i think ingram's ceiling is higher than Wiggins.

People are saying that? I dont think anyone said shit after the allstar break where he was playing with way more confidence (shot 48% with 14ppg). It was night and day
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:59 PM   #273
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IT called Fultz after the Cs got the pick and says he thinks they could work well together. Which means the odds the Cs take Fultz are sky-high, as Thomas was probably told something by Ainge and company.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:24 AM   #274
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I dont understand why people say ingram is a bust, dude is young and its not like everyone is born like lebron who can dominate right away but i think ingram's ceiling is higher than Wiggins.

They never saw him play. At worst, he'll be an multiple all-star. His ceiling is a superstar. He has the combo of height, length, athleticism and skills to impose his will on the game. Few possess those traits.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:32 AM   #275
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They never saw him play. At worst, he'll be an multiple all-star. His ceiling is a superstar. He has the combo of height, length, athleticism and skills to impose his will on the game. Few possess those traits.

I won't write Ingram off yet, he went high because he was said to have great intangibles (worked hard, showed great improvement every stage, leadership qualities) but his height, length and athleticism are not that particularly notable as to cancel out concerns.

Simmons and Thon Maker are better, and bigger, athletes and that's just the guys from the same draft.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:51 PM   #276
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They never saw him play. At worst, he'll be an multiple all-star. His ceiling is a superstar. He has the combo of height, length, athleticism and skills to impose his will on the game. Few possess those traits.

He struggled badly in the beginning but he was really putting it together at the end despite Lakers limiting his minutes. He has the physical tools to be a special player. We will see if he has that work ethic to work on his flaws and the mentality to be a true superstar.
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:02 PM   #277
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Any clue on who the Knicks are interested in?
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:54 AM   #278
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Celtics should pick Isaac. Good potential offensively and defensively. He also fills the lack of defensive bigman for the celtics since he can play both forward positions
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Old 05-25-2017, 08:49 AM   #279
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Celtics should pick Isaac. Good potential offensively and defensively. He also fills the lack of defensive bigman for the celtics since he can play both forward positions
i had a thought a couple days ago that totally makes sense in my head (as i am really high on Isaac)

Boston trade down to Philly for Okafor, #4 and future firsts (unprotected)

Philly select Fultz and get their go-to perimiter scorer
Boston gets an awesome defensive player and a much better fit. + other assets

i also still like Okafor. most of ISH see him as an negative asset
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Old 05-25-2017, 09:02 AM   #280
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i had a thought a couple days ago that totally makes sense in my head (as i am really high on Isaac)

Boston trade down to Philly for Okafor, #4 and future firsts (unprotected)

Philly select Fultz and get their go-to perimiter scorer
Boston gets an awesome defensive player and a much better fit. + other assets

i also still like Okafor. most of ISH see him as an negative asset

Give up more than one unprotected first?

You are high on more than just Isaac, son.
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Old 05-25-2017, 09:08 AM   #281
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i had a thought a couple days ago that totally makes sense in my head (as i am really high on Isaac)

Boston trade down to Philly for Okafor, #4 and future firsts (unprotected)

Philly select Fultz and get their go-to perimiter scorer
Boston gets an awesome defensive player and a much better fit. + other assets

i also still like Okafor. most of ISH see him as an negative asset

Yeah, I can't see Philly giving up more than one additional pick to move from #4 to #1.

Better bet would be Sacramento for #5 & #10 tbh
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Old 05-25-2017, 11:41 AM   #282
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Ball won't work out for the Celtics.
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Old 05-25-2017, 12:06 PM   #283
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Okafor, as has been said countless times, has zero place on a Brad Stevens team. He makes our defense worse and our offense doesn't flow out of the post; nobody's does if they want to actually win things in today's NBA. Bigs have to be able to lure their defender out to the perimeter to spread the floor and knock jumpers down nowadays and he can't do that. He's a 20-year old kid with an outdated game.
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Old 05-25-2017, 12:06 PM   #284
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i had a thought a couple days ago that totally makes sense in my head (as i am really high on Isaac)

Boston trade down to Philly for Okafor, #4 and future firsts (unprotected)

Philly select Fultz and get their go-to perimiter scorer
Boston gets an awesome defensive player and a much better fit. + other assets

i also still like Okafor. most of ISH see him as an negative asset
Okafor is garbage

and even at #4 that a huge reach for Isaac
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Old 05-25-2017, 01:26 PM   #285
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Ball won't work out for the Celtics.

No surprise there. As much as LaVar is annoying, Lonzo has always been a Laker fan.

The only negative about him.
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