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Old 07-06-2006, 07:42 PM   #31
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81 points,something your boy Jordan coudn't acheive.

And wouldn't want to achieve. Do they hand out an award for that? A certificate? even a coupon to Macy's? oops guess not.

That's the kind of regular season non-record (100 is the record fool not 81) only losers like kobe and kobe fans would be happy with. Congratulations you're #2 again. Meanwhile Wade has the MVP of the NBA Finals, the actual TROPHY.

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Old 07-06-2006, 07:44 PM   #32
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If Kobe had Alonzo Mourning, Antoine Walker, Gary Payton, Jason Williams, James Posey, Haslem (making Dirk a *****), he'd probably have another ring and his first finals MVP too. And that's not even debateable.

You see, I as a Heat fan think Kobe is a more talented player than Wade, but it's when someones says something ****iing stupid like that, in which gets on my nerves.

That's nothing but a groundless opinion.

Then dude adds "And that's not even debatable" as if it's been validated. LMAO.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:47 PM   #33
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And wouldn't want to achieve. Do they hand out an award for that? A certificate? even a coupon to Macy's? oops guess not.

That's the kind of regular season non-record (100 is the record fool not 81) only losers like kobe and kobe fans would be happy with. Congratulations you're #2 again. Meanwhile Wade has the MVP of the NBA Finals, the actual TROPHY.

No but you get more endorsements,your shoe company wants to release more products and even the basketball hall of fame ask for your shoes,therefore you get money from that and you are in the books.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:48 PM   #34
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:51 PM   #35
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You see, I as a Heat fan think Kobe is a more talented player than Wade, but it's when someones says something ****iing stupid like that, in which gets on my nerves.

That's nothing but a groundless opinion.

Then dude adds "And that's not even debatable" as if it's been validated. LMAO.

That Heat team is STACKED. That's not debateable.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:51 PM   #36
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Kobe had PRIME Shaq, younger Payton, Malone ALL of them and couldn't get it done.

Wade won it with a Shaq that scored 5 points in an NBA finals game.

shaq was not prime. very good. but his prime was short.

there was NO ONE stopping him in 2000.

2001 and 2002 he was the most dominant in the league. however, particularly in 2002, there was some who felt that the kings were the better team. many feel that robert horry was more of a hero in 2002 in a sense. he saved the lakers during the conference finals.

2003...that was the 'toe' incident.

2004...shaq was losing a step and it showed on the defensive end. payton was getting blown by faster guards all year. malone's knee injury was probably the biggest obstacle although everyone but payton missed games during that season.

there was other things going on then i don't need nor want to go over.

you want to pat wade on the back for ft's winning championships, great. whatever it takes to win a dam trophy is the way it has to be.

but no one player wins it all. your precious jordan, as great as he was, still needed the rest of his team to follow through w/their own roles so jordan can get all the credit you'll continue to bestow on him.
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lwe get the point but you using some role player as opposed to an legit second option

Fine, then his fans should compare him to other fine players of his class ie legit second options who didn't have enough in tank to be the dominant player of a champion
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Wade is working out with Kobe this summer... that says something right there...
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And wouldn't want to achieve. Do they hand out an award for that? A certificate? even a coupon to Macy's? oops guess not.

That's the kind of regular season non-record (100 is the record fool not 81) only losers like kobe and kobe fans would be happy with. Congratulations you're #2 again. Meanwhile Wade has the MVP of the NBA Finals, the actual TROPHY.

well if that's your take then why in the f do you go out of your way to throw articles in the collective face of ish to point out ever godam thing mj does?????????
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but no one player wins it all. your precious jordan, as great as he was, still needed the rest of his team to follow through w/their own roles so jordan can get all the credit you'll continue to bestow on him.


Yes and lots of Jordans teammates do get props as well. ESpecially the ones that played vital roles. Pippen, Rodman..
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Kobe had PRIME Shaq, younger Payton, Malone ALL of them and couldn't get it done.

Wade won it with a Shaq that scored 5 points in an NBA finals game.

Let's not forget Gary Payton hitting all them open 3's against the Pistons in the Finals with the Lakers. Oh and who could forget Karl Malone being healthier than he was during all 19 years of his playing career in June of 2004. Add that to the great chemistry between Kobe and Shaq, and yeah your right the Lakers should have won the title in 2004.
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That Heat team is STACKED. That's not debateable.

What's your point?

It's no secret that a star player needs an overall compentant team/cast to reach a champioship level.

Put you throwing "if you give Kobe Wade's cast even minus Shaq" they win the title. LOL, That's BULL****. Completly unsubstantial.

Kobe hasn't won anything without riding the coatails of a Prime Shaquille O'Neal.

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there was NO ONE stopping him in 2000.

2001 and 2002 he was the most dominant in the league. however, particularly in 2002, there was some who felt that the kings were the better team. many feel that robert horry was more of a hero in 2002 in a sense. he saved the lakers during the conference finals.

2003...that was the 'toe' incident.

2004...shaq was losing a step and it showed on the defensive end. payton was getting blown by faster guards all year. malone's knee injury was probably the biggest obstacle although everyone but payton missed games during that season.

You're in denial. Kobe has neither talent to dominate against tough teams nor does have the temperament that inspires fellow players to play over their capability. That's really the only reason why Kobe couldn't get it done with an old Payton while Wade did it with even an older one.
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Yes and lots of Jordans teammates do get props as well. ESpecially the ones that played vital roles. Pippen, Rodman..

in relation to what's being discussed, this has nothing to do w/this.

starjordan prop'd up wade using a shaq scoring 5 points like wade carried the team on his back and did it all himself.

he was clearly the mvp of his team. i've never disputed that.

he needed the rest of his team to do what they did, shaq's 5 pts, 7rbs and 7to's included to win the dam thing.
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Wade is working out with Kobe this summer... that says something right there...


Wade isn't just "working out with Kobe" this summer.

Lebron,Wade,Kobe, Melo, Amare, Dwight Howard.... Pretty much all team USA invites are all working out in Vegas in preperation for the upcomming Worlds Championships and the Olympics.
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