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Old 09-19-2017, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default Hurricane Maria is now a Cat 5

and heading to Puerto Rico


buh buh, this is perfectly normal...


http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/19/americ...nds/index.html
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:21 AM   #2
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Default Re: Hurricane Maria is now a Cat 5

If she was the first Cat 5 hurricane ever, then it wouldn't be normal.


But there have been plenty of Cat 5's before.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:23 AM   #3
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If she was the first Cat 5 hurricane ever, then it wouldn't be normal.


But there have been plenty of Cat 5's before.
3 to hit the US in 1 season. perfectly normal
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:33 AM   #4
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Another week, another cat 5 hurricane


I guess it helps mask our child-President...I mean if we are trying to find something good out of all these hurricanes
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3 to hit the US in 1 season. perfectly normal


I don't think any Cat 5's have hit the US this season. They may have been Cat 5's at one point though.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:43 AM   #6
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I don't think any Cat 5's have hit the US this season. They may have been Cat 5's at one point though.
harvey and irma hit the mainland as cat 4s. irma hit the american virgin islands as a cat 5. we will see if maria will stay a cat 5 when it hits PR.

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Old 09-19-2017, 12:17 PM   #7
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Default Re: Hurricane Maria is now a Cat 5

There have been 33 recorded category 5 hurricanes in the Atlantic. There have been seasons where more than one category 5 has formed dating back to 1932. Only in the last 10 years have more than one hit a caribbean island as a cat 5 (2007 and this year). That has more to do with luck than global warming.
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or HAARP
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:32 PM   #9
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If she was the first Cat 5 hurricane ever, then it wouldn't be normal.


But there have been plenty of Cat 5's before.
So if there was an Ice Age tomorrow it'd be totally normal because it's happened before?
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So if there was an Ice Age tomorrow it'd be totally normal because it's happened before?

normality is relative to the time frame you outline.

Normal telative to the existence of earth, sure. Relative to the time of book keeping? no
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normality is relative to the time frame you outline.

Normal telative to the existence of earth, sure. Relative to the time of book keeping? no
We are entering a solar minimum, so why not
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So if there was an Ice Age tomorrow it'd be totally normal because it's happened before?


Hurricanes form every year. Ice Ages do not. Duh.
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There have been 33 recorded category 5 hurricanes in the Atlantic. There have been seasons where more than one category 5 has formed dating back to 1932. Only in the last 10 years have more than one hit a caribbean island as a cat 5 (2007 and this year). That has more to do with luck than global warming.
Hurricanes overall...global...have been more frequent and more powerful since 1850. You can single out islands or maybe just Florida to make it look like 'luck' but overall hurricanes are getting bigger and stronger over recent time.

We can all agree the Earth is warming...that part is fact...we can disagree and debate what is causing the earth to warm, but it IS getting warmer.

Why is it so hard for some people to make this simple connection??? And why does it have to be the 'right' to reject this connection??? This shouldn't be political. The "why" might be political, but I don't understand why we should pretend warmer weather doesn't affect storms, that's silly and there could only be a hidden agenda of some sort behind it. What is it? Just hate to see that Leonardo DiCaprio could be right about something?
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:21 PM   #14
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Hurricanes overall...global...have been more frequent and more powerful since 1850. You can single out islands or maybe just Florida to make it look like 'luck' but overall hurricanes are getting bigger and stronger over recent time.

We can all agree the Earth is warming...that part is fact...we can disagree and debate what is causing the earth to warm, but it IS getting warmer.

Why is it so hard for some people to make this simple connection??? And why does it have to be the 'right' to reject this connection??? This shouldn't be political. The "why" might be political, but I don't understand why we should pretend warmer weather doesn't affect storms, that's silly and there could only be a hidden agenda of some sort behind it. What is it? Just hate to see that Leonardo DiCaprio could be right about something?

How would we know??

We couldn't even record hurricanes accurately until the late 1800's. As far as you know, this is mild compared to what hurricane season may have looked like in 1500 or 1600 or 1700.

There were 15 hurricanes in 2005.

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Though not necessarily indicative of impact, a better way to rank the most extreme hurricane seasons is using a parameter called the ACE (Accumulated Cyclone Energy) index, calculated by adding each tropical storm or hurricane's wind speed through its life cycle.

Long-lived, intense hurricanes have a high ACE index, while short-lived, weak tropical storms have a low value. The ACE of a season is the sum of the ACE for each storm and takes into account the number, strength and duration of all the tropical storms and hurricanes in the season.

When doing that, Klotzbach found only seven other Atlantic seasons were more active through mid-September than 2017.

I know this article is trying to proclaim 2017 as some historically terrible season, but let me point out this line:

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Klotzbach found only seven other Atlantic seasons were more active through mid-September than 2017.

Only?? Again, we have only been able to really assess hurricanes for the past 100 years or so, and you're telling me there are 7 years (including 2005) that were worse, or as bad as, this year?

So 7 years out of 120 its been worse?

Seems like this season isn't anything more than an outlier at best. Not some doomsday sign.

https://dsx.weather.com//util/image/...1-e17d87b8b6a0
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How would we know??

We couldn't even record hurricanes accurately until the late 1800's. As far as you know, this is mild compared to what hurricane season may have looked like in 1500 or 1600 or 1700.

There were 15 hurricanes in 2005.



I know this article is trying to proclaim 2017 as some historically terrible season, but let me point out this line:



Only?? Again, we have only been able to really assess hurricanes for the past 100 years or so, and you're telling me there are 7 years (including 2005) that were worse, or as bad as, this year?

So 7 years out of 120 its been worse?

Seems like this season isn't anything more than an outlier at best. Not some doomsday sign.

https://dsx.weather.com//util/image/...1-e17d87b8b6a0

I wouldnt even say 100 years, I mean we haven't been able to track let alone equally grade hurricanes in the atlantic up until more recently.
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