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Old 10-06-2017, 07:44 PM   #136
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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/6/16...ubio-mannequin

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confidence (and injuries) has held Exum back thus far. With more confidence and an increased role on the team, the Jazz might be able to get their money’s worth for the #5 pick they spent on him.

What has held him back is skills and basketball IQ. I doubt he'll ever live up to the pick. Hopefully he can be at least a 3 and D player though. Shouldn't have an increased role on this roster is the problem

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Age of every Utah Jazz starter:

Ricky Rubio: 26
Rodney Hood: 24
Joe Ingles: 29
Derrick Favors: 26
Rudy Gobert: 25

Future's still bright
3:10 PM - Sep 30, 2017

Only one of them might be on the team by the all-star break and at least two of them shouldn't be starting.

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Throw in the young punks Exum and Mitchell and the Jazz are not only young, but unlike recent years, they are a playoff-caliber team. How can you not be excited about this team?

Because they suck?

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Last year, someone on another website suggested that Exum was a pretty major bust.
I argued that even if he doesn’t develop into a great player, he seems like he’s going to be at least useful and is a much better prospect than Mudiay, who seems to be pretty poor on both ends of the floor regardless of how athletic he is.

Last year Exum sucked at every aspect of the game.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:49 PM   #137
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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/6/16...dante-exum-8th

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Due to his ACL tear in the summer of 2015, Dante got off to a slow start last year and had to work his way back into form.

Could we quit making excuses for him? His problem has been is he's learning to play basketball still. Not playing the year before the draft probably made him more money but it's hurt his career for sure
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:34 PM   #138
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David Locke: Quin Snyder “the kind of season Joe Johnson can have is to be 6th man of the year” – via Twitter Lockedonsports

should be Hood or Burks
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:34 PM   #139
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Andy Larsen: Raul Neto is out for tonight’s game with left quadriceps tightness. – via Twitter andyblarsen
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Old 10-06-2017, 09:40 PM   #140
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Looks like the rotation might have worked itself out? Dante hurt his shoulder
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Old 10-06-2017, 10:19 PM   #141
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Tony Jones: Exum dislocated his shoulder…he’s done for the night – via Twitter tribjazz
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:16 AM   #142
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Andy Larsen: Jazz officially say Dante Exum will not return tonight due to the left shoulder injury. They did not specify injury type. – via Twitter andyblarsen

Spencer Checketts: Quin Snyder on Dante Exum’s left shoulder: “Don’t want to speculate, but if you saw the shoulder, it wasn’t good.” – via Twitter 1280Spence
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:23 AM   #143
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left arm anyway
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:30 AM   #144
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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46075073&ni...dows-jazz-win#

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The Jazz didn't shoot particularly well Friday night, only 41.2 percent from the floor. But what they did do was take a ton of shots: 97, to be precise. The highest number of shots the Jazz took in last year's regular season was 93, so that is a really high number for the Jazz.

Worse offensive players taking more shots. Sounds like a recipe for disaster

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How did they do it? Through dominating the glass and forcing a ton of turnovers.

Will that work against good teams?

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it wasn't a good situation for Mitchell to be thrown into. After Exum went down, Mitchell became the backup point guard by default in a game where the Jazz already didn't want to play Ricky Rubio a lot of minutes.

Probably just want to see what he can do. No reason Burks, Hood, Ingles, Johnson can't handle the ball more

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Mitchell figures to play at least some point guard during Exum's injury, along with Raul Neto and perhaps Alec Burks.

All of them should be ahead of Exum anyway.

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"His efficiency, and not just his shot selection, but his decision-making will continue to improve. I won't say you live with some of that … but you do. You go through situations like this in order to get better," Snyder said.

or you send him to the G-league
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:38 AM   #145
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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/emptyin...-running-game/

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The biggest thing that jumped out to me tonight is the Jazz are tougher than they have been in the past. Ricky Rubio battles for loose balls and is always in the mix. Donovan Mitchell, Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Ingles, Rudy Gobert and more are always scrapping. This team has a toughness to it.

Not sure about that. They lost some tough players over the summer and have had some before

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This might be a bit of the model on how the Jazz are able to be successful offensive team this year. They dominate the glass and then hit some threes and that makes for at least an average offense.

Who's going to hit 3's especially if Burks and Neto aren't playing. Hard to see how Burks isn't playing or isn't the starter actually

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Alec Burks continues his strong pre-season with 19 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist. With Dante Exum out Burks may find himself with a roll in the rotation and with some serious playing time.

He's looking like their 2nd best player. Shouldn't take Dante's injury to have him playing big minutes. He's the most talented guy on the team except maybe the ill fitting Favors and we're seeing it finally!

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Joel Bolomboy continues to play well. He has shown a variety of parts to his game. He hit another three. He played off the bounce. He showed his rebounding.

Need to move their 6th man of the year and get him in the llne-up

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Donovan Mitchell was forced into playing the point guard with Exum and Neto out of the game and it impacted his shooting. He went 3 for 16 from the field. Nothing to worry about it. He was generally in control and the shots weren’t forced or selfish.

It's something to worry about if he can't shoot

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Devin Booker really doesn’t like playing Joe Ingles.

Doubt many players do!
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:52 AM   #146
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one of the brightest points for the Jazz thus far had been none other than the former fifth overall draft pick Dante Exum. The young man out of Australia had so much to prove coming into this season and in his first two games, he looked absolutely up to the task, even outplaying starting point guard Ricky Rubio.

He did not outplay Rubio nor has he been one of the brightest points. He's shown improvement. He hasn't shown he is a rotation player on this team to me anyway

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Why does he deserve it more than better players?

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I was thrilled to finally see Exum have a breakout year and show his worth.

Summer league and pre-season is a breakout year now?
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:01 AM   #147
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Assuming the rumors are true and Favors is back to being 100 percent, we could see him knocking on the door of becoming a top 10 player in this loaded division by the end of the season.

Favors is just two years removed from averaging 16 points and eight rebounds per game and looking primed to take the next step. If he can channel at least something close to what he was for the Jazz between 2014 and 2016, he could end up even higher on this list by season’s end.

Just how far up remains to be seen.

Likely won't be in the division by the end of the year

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Rubio seems like an ideal fit to run the Jazz offense this season

Hill was ideal

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George is arguably a top-3 two-way player in the league

and the 6th best player in his division?

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One thing that isn’t in question is Westbrook’s ability to dominate games, especially down the stretch.

There really was no other choice for this spot.

Unless you consider that Rudy was the top 2 way player in the league last year
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:15 AM   #148
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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/20...gament-damage/

Be tougher to get rid of Neto now. Bolomboy is playing too good as well. He needs to be in the rotation in fact. O'Neale looks too good to let get away too. I'd look to trade Johnson or Sefolosha or Udoh I guess. I don't know what you do or can do at this point.
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:04 PM   #149
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Sources: Utah’s Dante Exum could miss season with separated left shoulder. Doctors, Jazz officials conferring on recovery/timetable options. – via Twitter wojespn

The news on Utah Jazz guard Dante Exum is not good. Exum has separated his left shoulder and also suffered ligament damage, sources tell The Tribune. There is still no official timetable for his recovery process, but sources say Exum could miss a significant amount of time. – via Salt Lake Tribune

Bobby Marks: The Dante Exum injury now has the Jazz faced with a tough roster decision. Currently with 15 guaranteed contracts, backup PG Raul Neto is the odd man out. Utah would need to waive or trade a guaranteed contract to clear a spot for Neto. The Jazz could also rely on combo guard rookie Donovan Mitchell if they are reluctant to clear a roster spot. – via ESPN

Wow the whole season! It could actually be a good thing as far as his contract goes next year. Neto is hardly the odd man out. Got to keep him now I'd think. Be interesting to see what happens in the next couple weeks.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:30 PM   #150
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Andy Larsen: Dante Exum update: we aren’t going to know whether or not he needs surgery for a little bit. He’s getting second/third opinions today. – via Twitter andyblarsen
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