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Old 09-25-2017, 03:44 PM   #1
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Default Kneeling protests shows TRUE difference between liberals and conservatives

Liberals see this in race terms as a black guy standing up for racial injustice, because liberals are much more racist and they also they see everything through racist glasses giving off a racist tint.

Conservatives do not see this as a race issue at all because that is not how we are framed to think. We just saw a top 1% citizen who doesn't realize how they have been blessed by God and their country to be in the position they are in. These guys are making millions, playing their favorite games, having millions of fans, living the American Dream. They have it.

Liberals always want to take about privilege?

How about the privilege to live in the best country on earth? You know the one that the people who they are disrespecting fought for, died for, and built from scratch? That is the real privilege.

Think about the people in countries like North Korea, where you have to submit to a dictator or you go to a prison camp or your family is killed, or Iran where they shoot non violent student protesters, or China where Internet and free speech is restricted and they have a literal social media game that rewards pro government compliance and putting down dissenters with better loan and job opportunities along with countless other benefits, or Africa and other countries where dictators and socialist governments have stolen from the people and now they are starving. So many throughout the world not with the privilege to live in the USA and have hope for a better life.

And now these Kneelers completely sh*t on everyone and this entire country when they disrespect our flag, our country, our values, and our military. These are multimillionaire famous athletes who have been given an enormous platform to use at any point in there lives to promote their ideas, and they choose during our time to give respect to our country?

THAT is the time they choose as a platform for a problem that largely doesn't even exist and has nothing to do with the people they are disrespecting?

Police and Americans as a whole aren't racist. Most police are looking to serve and protect the people and constitution of the United States. If there is a specific individual that isn't doing that I'm here to talk. If you want to talk about militarization of police, drug war, surveillance, civil forfeiture, police policy of shooting dogs etc. that is fine.

We can constructively criticize police policies or individuals that are making mistakes, but the majority of police are good hardworking people, they are the ones they are going to respond to any call simple or dangerous and go in there looking to do there job and protect this country.

Does anyone think police get on a scene of a bank robbery, enter inside, and when they see a black or Hispanic bank teller and managers they suddenly care less about catching the bank robber?

Nope, they--like most Americans--couldn't care less about race and just about doing the right thing. We all want the same thing, safe neighborhoods for our kids, good schools for a good education, and good jobs to support ourselves and our families.


Now don't get me wrong I don't blame liberals though, because they have been brainwashed to think this way by a divisive media through a very thought out and effective control scheme.

So when I say liberal or conservative, what this really is coming to is pro-American vs pro-globalist.

Politics is changing in the United States. It's time to WAKE UP.

It's time to stop thinking in black/white or republican/democrats and thinking in terms of Americans.

Republicans and democrats as we know them are are both on the down. Independents are a bigger segment than either republicans or democrats. More people consider themselves pro trump than republican. Trump has aligned himself with pro American policies and branded himself on every front as the patriotic, pro American, strong leader.

It's time for every American to unite together and Make America Great Again!
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:00 PM   #2
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Oh shit... you've done it now....

Racist.

On a serious note, as a veteran, I back the players' right's to kneel 100%. Hell, at least they aren't out burning down their towns like we've seen plenty of 'social activists' do. They have a right to protest, people have a right to boycott, owners have a right to terminate them, the president has a right to (he shouldn't do it, but he did) voice his opinion.

The KKK has a right to say what they say. Antifa has a right to protest them if they want. BLM has a right to say what they say (not burn shit down).

Everyone has rights. As long as you aren't infringing on another's rights, more power to ya.
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Old 09-25-2017, 05:51 PM   #3
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:40 PM   #4
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wow you wrote all of that just to prove you are another conservative who doesnt understand racism and rather ignore it "ignore-ance" and calling those who do acknowledge it and try to change it as the "racist". mark yourself up as another idiot who will achieve nothing great in this world because you think like a sheep.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:41 PM   #5
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I love how this board has like one mature mod in Kblaze and yet they all think they're mature, lol...
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:55 PM   #6
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wow you wrote all of that just to prove you are another conservative who doesnt understand racism and rather ignore it "ignore-ance" and calling those who do acknowledge it and try to change it as the "racist". mark yourself up as another idiot who will achieve nothing great in this world because you think like a sheep.

You're just bored and self-important.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:59 PM   #7
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So your whole point is that these athletes are making millions of dollars; so they should just shut up and play instead of expressing their first amendment right to protest issues they perceive with this country. Because... it's better here than North Korea?

Oh, and you threw in a "make america great again" in there too. I think your grandma's facebook might've been a better place for this.
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Athletes and millionaires have feelings and emotions too. I know people put them on a pedestal but they are human beings and far from perfect.
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:26 PM   #9
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The main problem is older white people simply won't acknowledge that black people had it tougher coming up in their age. If I were to confront older relatives about how many black people were allowed to attend their Catholic schools in the 50s, work in their corporations in the 60s & 70s ...they would be forced to admit that there were none. But then they'd follow that up by saying they weren't smart enough, not genetically wired for it. I shit you not man...that is how they think. Even if they aren't as prepared for it as others there's reasons for that...they won't acknowledged those reasons. People at the top always believe there there for their own choices / general superiority and nothing else. They never consider opportunity. Trump is the ultimate embodiment of that line of thinking.
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So your whole point is that these athletes are making millions of dollars; so they should just shut up and play instead of expressing their first amendment right to protest issues they perceive with this country.
Yeah, this isn't a good argument. In fact, it's disappointing to see people on the right using this argument because they KNOW it's a stupid argument. This is what the left always say, if you're rich or privileged in some way your opinion is somehow invalid. It's a nonsense argument.
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The main problem is older white people simply won't acknowledge that black people had it tougher coming up in their age. If I were to confront older relatives about how many black people were allowed to attend their Catholic schools in the 50s, work in their corporations in the 60s & 70s ...they would be forced to admit that there were none.
Yes racial discrimination was a big problem in the 50s. I don't think any sane person doesn't know that.

But this ain't the 50s. Those problems have been fixed. We've won those battles.
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Yes racial discrimination was a big problem in the 50s. I don't think any sane person doesn't know that.

But this ain't the 50s. Those problems have been fixed. We've won those battles.


Those people are still alive...hell most of them still control our entire government. A lot of them are good people (the few I know lol). But their minds were formed in that era. (and so are their kids)
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Those people are still alive. A lot of them are good people. But their minds were formed in that era. (and so are their kids)
Yeah, if you meet an 85 year old black dude from the Deep South, there's no doubt that he didn't have a fair shot and fair opportunity. That's obviously true.

You have to remember though. People in the deep south weren't just voluntarily discriminating against blacks. It was the law. Most people weren't in favor of it. Even blacks were overwhelmingly voting for the party that was doing it because the racist party was also the party that was handing out economic benefits. It's not as simple as "racists vs non-racists". Things are always more complicated than what can be explained in slogans and cliches.
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Yeah, if you meet an 85 year black dude from the Deep South, there's no doubt that he didn't have a fair shot and fair opportunity. That's obviously true.

You have to remember though. People in the deep south weren't just voluntarily discriminating against blacks. It was the law. Most people weren't in favor of it. Even blacks were overwhelmingly voting for the party that was doing it because the racist party was also the party that was handing out economic benefits. It's not as simple as "racists vs non-racists". Things are always more complicated than what can be explained in slogans and cliches.

Dude its not just the deep south..white people were rioting over school desegration in the 80s in Boston. In the 50s? The stigma was everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. Those people are the ones that show up the most to vote of any demographic btw.
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Dude its not just the deep south..white people were rioting over school desegration in the 80s in Boston. In the 50s? The stigma was everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. Those people are the ones that show up the most to vote of any demographic btw.
Yeah, Boston is a notoriously racist city. That's well known. Don't put Boston's issues on all of America.
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