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Old 09-27-2017, 03:35 AM   #1
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Default So First Take, NFL and other sporting platforms are now political too?

What in the hell is going on in America?

Have you guys lost the plot?


Who is the moral authority to decide if Trump's comments were justified or not and why do these sports programs attack Trump and Shannon Sharpe First Take spouting his black agenda on TV?


This will only cripple the NBA and NFL viwership, Trump fans will simply boycott games and buying merchandise.


I don't see how this is creating unity or bettering the black cause in America. If anything, the fencesitters on these issues will reject the political agendas been shoved down their throats in the sports.
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:52 AM   #2
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Default Re: So First Take, NFL and other sporting platforms are now political too?

Well, they cover sports... When politics are in sports, they naturally cover politics as well... Shouldn't be that hard to understand. It's always been this way.
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:37 AM   #3
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Well, they cover sports... When politics are in sports, they naturally cover politics as well... Shouldn't be that hard to understand. It's always been this way.
Bullshit. Sports have nothing to do with politics when they are about what they profess to be about (excellence, high-level competition, physical risk and endangerment and courage, etc.); the politicization and collective quasi-worship of mass sports has always been the trademark of totalitarian (and "mass") societies. The fact these "sports" have rapidly become a hollow combination of bad acting, vainglorious narcissism, and political indoctrination only goes to demonstrate a truth that was better hidden in the past: that modern mass sports are as much a form of political control and collectivized escapism as anything else.

Sports were developed in countries like Britain as a kind of preparation and schooling for life (and even the pressures of leadership); the making into a game the natural instinct between males to compete, and providing an outlet that prepares for more high-stakes competition in life--now it becomes the end in itself, and is worshipped with a cult-like fervour, to the point where people who play these games think they're much more important than they are (because all they are is people playing games, in public, for money); that this constructed fantasy-world is considered to be more important than the actual world to most people, is a pretty solid indication that people are living in a collectivised delusion, an unreality--effectively a dream world, like in the fantasy books a child reads (e.g. see popularity of Harry Potter series, even among supposed adults); the merits of formalized play are elevated over the merits of the real--the American election of a "reality tv star" is really quite fitting, a fine representation of American "culture" and what it values (and Obama, the celebrity president, bridged the gap btw).

It is pretty clear why our cultures have become so infantile, and our populations incapable of growing up and taking on the responsibilities of life, when you notice that success in the world of play has been elevated to a position of importance and respect where it doesn't belong, certainly not among any kind of civilised people. In the minds of the masses a Lebron James is the modern equivalent of a Manfred von Richthofen, and that's truly pathetic. How far the modern reality has fallen from the initial reasons for such things shows how utterly corrupted our culture has become. A society where sports is one of its primary obsessions is a sick one that lives vicariously, well-exemplified by the mindless cult of the "role model", and many other things besides.
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:18 AM   #4
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The idea that the NFL could be crippled because of Trump fans is laughable and only seriously put forth by people like you who don't know shit about America in the first place...and a few delusional people doing what partisan talk radio does....make a big deal out of things.

170 million Americans watched the Superbowl. Only 130 voted in the presidential election. And Trump only got 46% of those votes. And many of that 46 don't give a shit what he has to say about football. Millions just hated Hilliary. Millions hated him and just vote the party line. People are not that into this guys opinions that they are gonna ignore their teams on a superbowl run.

Do you know how insane Steelers fans are? Eagles? They would have MAGA hats on one day...and paint their faces for the team the next. Trump is temporary. Their teams are for life. Trump isn't nearly as influential to the day to day decisions of Americans as you seem to believe. And if he were...he got 63 million votes in a country of 350 million people. His people just are not as widespread as you believe. He is in all likelihood the most hated person in the country.

Just so happens that people will hate you and still not care enough to vote. He got elected by a passionate few and some who just vote the party line...combined with nobody having passion for Clinton and her turning enough of Obamas voters off. You aren't under the impression that being president makes one universally popular are you? IT makes you polarizing in the best of cases. A generally decent president is disliked by dozens of millions of people just off the D or R next to their name. This guy?

Trump does not have the power the cripple the NFL with his opinion that fans shouldn't watch. Obama didn't either. No president will. People don't care THAT much what the president has to say and they never have enough of the population behind them to pull something like that off. 48 million people watched the last time the Cowboys played the Packers. You think Trump makes the probably 20-30% that voted for him not watch next time? Not happening. And even if it did....know what it would still be? The most watched thing of any kind that week anyway. Monday night the ratings were up 63% over last year. Its all in the matchups.


As for why sports news networks discuss it? The most powerful person on earth spent hours hating on the biggest sports league in the country...calling them out in rallies and directly to 20 million followers online. How the hell is a sports news network NOT gonna cover it?

Are we even trying to be serious?
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:50 AM   #5
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Op is a fat baggage boy
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:21 AM   #6
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Default Re: So First Take, NFL and other sporting platforms are now political too?

People were already turning away from pro football because the commissioner is a boob.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:30 AM   #7
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Leftists: We are protesting during the anthem to raise awareness!

Also leftists: Trump shouldn't be commenting on our protests!
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:51 AM   #8
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Default Re: So First Take, NFL and other sporting platforms are now political too?

Because the president brought sports into politics
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:25 AM   #9
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Default Re: So First Take, NFL and other sporting platforms are now political too?

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Well, they cover sports... When politics are in sports, they naturally cover politics as well... Shouldn't be that hard to understand. It's always been this way.


There are no politics in Sports. Social media is driving this. Athletes have never been as connected to their fans as they are today. So naturally, when an athlete sees what they perceive to be a social injustice, they plea to their fanbase through social media platforms. It's all about trying to be the most "woke" athlete in Sports today, and they don't realize they know little to nothing at all on the subject matter. But to the fanboys, they're philosophical geniuses! It's all very pathetic.
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:36 AM   #10
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There are no politics in Sports. Social media is driving this. Athletes have never been as connected to their fans as they are today. So naturally, when an athlete sees what they perceive to be a social injustice, they plea to their fanbase through social media platforms. It's all about trying to be the most "woke" athlete in Sports today, and they don't realize they know little to nothing at all on the subject matter. But to the fanboys, they're philosophical geniuses! It's all very pathetic.


tio that is not cierto. Black athletes have been protesting since the 60s (and before). Ever heard of kareem abdul jabbar or muhammad Ali? They literally changed their names in protest lol and used to go on TV for demonstrations with a bunch of other athletes. You seriously have NO clue what youre talkin about tio....
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Old 09-27-2017, 10:57 AM   #11
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tio that is not cierto. Black athletes have been protesting since the 60s (and before). Ever heard of kareem abdul jabbar or muhammad Ali? They literally changed their names in protest lol and used to go on TV for demonstrations with a bunch of other athletes. You seriously have NO clue what youre talkin about tio....


So this is just a Black thing then? I mean, what more do Black athletes want? Police shootings against Blacks is less than 1% of all Police-involved interactions with the public. Yet here we are burning cities to the ground.

I'll kneel with all you suckas when the percentage increases. But it has to increase over less than 1%.
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:04 AM   #12
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Because the president brought sports into politics

Wasn't the idea of protesting during the national anthem to raise awareness?
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:20 AM   #13
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What in the hell is going on in America?

Have you guys lost the plot?
Trumps Twitter addiction happened

Yes he's completely lost
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:23 AM   #14
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What sucks is the whole kneeling thing with Kap was finally starting to die down and go away...

Then Trump had Tweet it up making it more of an issue than Kap could dream

Not sure when it will go away now...
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:23 AM   #15
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What sucks is the whole kneeling thing with Kap was finally starting to die down and go away...

Then Trump had Tweet it up making it more of an issue than Kap could dream

Not sure when it will go away now...

When 'racial injustice' is solved.

So... never. Because we all know, if you give a mouse a cookie...
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