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Old 09-30-2017, 03:38 PM   #1
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Default Most accurate defensive stat? Website?

All these endless bickering whether this player A plays better defense than player B, that player C actually sucks etc.

Yes, there is that defensive rating at basketballreference but is that accurate?

With a ton of high screens being set out there for an offensive player, how can we really establish a defender is really doing great at stopping the other player?
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Old 09-30-2017, 03:40 PM   #2
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All these endless bickering whether this player A plays better defense than player B, that player C actually sucks etc.

Yes, there is that defensive rating at basketballreference but is that accurate?

With a ton of high screens being set out there for an offensive player, how can we really establish a defender is really doing great at stopping the other player?
Drapm on ESPN and Dbmp are thev best
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Old 09-30-2017, 05:26 PM   #3
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Default Re: Most accurate defensive stat? Website?

The answer is none. Just as their is no stat that is the "most accurate" for offense.
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Old 10-02-2017, 12:25 PM   #4
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Drapm on ESPN and Dbmp are thev best

thanks. Yes, I checked it, is seems accurate, esp seeing D'Russell, IT and Kyrie in the bottom 400th of the pile.
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:00 PM   #5
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Default Re: Most accurate defensive stat? Website?

Frankly every "stat" has lots of issues that make it impossible to use as a sole basis for things like this, defensively or offensively. Using a culmination of different stats and metrics you get a better picture, as well as actually watching the players play and knowing what's going on in-game
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:16 PM   #6
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thanks. Yes, I checked it, is seems accurate, esp seeing D'Russell, IT and Kyrie in the bottom 400th of the pile.

Link? Just curious
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:37 PM   #7
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Link? Just curious

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM

It's not the ultimate defensive stat, of course there would be some other flaws.
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:39 PM   #8
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Frankly every "stat" has lots of issues that make it impossible to use as a sole basis for things like this, defensively or offensively. Using a culmination of different stats and metrics you get a better picture, as well as actually watching the players play and knowing what's going on in-game

Yes, I understand but I just don't want to just rely on the eye test to simply proclaim somebody was a good or bad defender per se.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:12 PM   #9
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DBPM from bball ref and espn's RAPM are very good. You can mash it up with DRTG and DWS/48 to form a pretty accurate judgement
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