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Old 06-05-2007, 11:28 PM   #16
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you can say that they are equal but at the end of the day has a greater hunger to win, plus he has a bigger load to carry and is handling it appropiatly on the court, he just needs better temmates so he can trust them with the ball
didnt lebron score 29 out of his teams final 30 points in game 5? in two OT? dont talk about a greater hunger to win. A greater hunger to win would have been keeping shaq at all costs. but the hunger to win wasnt enough to keep shaq. Kobe is a great player but to say his 'hunger' to win is greater than LeBrons is just bs.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:28 AM   #17
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didnt lebron score 29 out of his teams final 30 points in game 5? in two OT? dont talk about a greater hunger to win. A greater hunger to win would have been keeping shaq at all costs. but the hunger to win wasnt enough to keep shaq. Kobe is a great player but to say his 'hunger' to win is greater than LeBrons is just bs.

You know its funny. The series is tied 2-2 and LeBron scores 48 to lead them to a 3-2 lead (and eventually the series win). He scores 29 of his teams final 30 points. All the sudden, its one of the greatest performances ever in playoff history. You can't pick up a newspaper without seeing an article about it. And rightly so.

A year ago on the day, Dirk Knowitzki was headed into game 5 against Phoenix. He dropped 50 in regulation (48 mins) to lead the Mavs to a 3-2 series lead (and eventually the series win). He scored 22 in the 4th quarter alone. Yet its just chalked up as a great playoff performance and thats it. Funny how the media likes to play up certain players but not others.

My point? LeBron's outing was great. But it wasn't that unique. Generally speaking, its nothing we haven't seen before.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:35 PM   #18
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didnt lebron score 29 out of his teams final 30 points in game 5? in two OT? dont talk about a greater hunger to win. A greater hunger to win would have been keeping shaq at all costs. but the hunger to win wasnt enough to keep shaq. Kobe is a great player but to say his 'hunger' to win is greater than LeBrons is just bs.

do you remember game 4 of the finals in 2000, when kobe was playin with a spained ankle and the game went into OT then shaq fouled out then it was all kobe after that and the lakers go on to win the game?
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:18 PM   #19
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and also doesnt lebron have better teammates than kobe today?

itz not about "today" its about all around past present future
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:17 PM   #20
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You know its funny. The series is tied 2-2 and LeBron scores 48 to lead them to a 3-2 lead (and eventually the series win). He scores 29 of his teams final 30 points. All the sudden, its one of the greatest performances ever in playoff history. You can't pick up a newspaper without seeing an article about it. And rightly so.

A year ago on the day, Dirk Knowitzki was headed into game 5 against Phoenix. He dropped 50 in regulation (48 mins) to lead the Mavs to a 3-2 series lead (and eventually the series win). He scored 22 in the 4th quarter alone. Yet its just chalked up as a great playoff performance and thats it. Funny how the media likes to play up certain players but not others.

My point? LeBron's outing was great. But it wasn't that unique. Generally speaking, its nothing we haven't seen before.

yea but these people dont see that
they see lebron as an icon. and as the best player to ever play
i see gilbert arenas do what lebron does.
penetrate the defense and make that lay up

Lebron's good , dont get me wrong , but to comparing him to Jordan , Come on, hes no king yet


also
isn't kobe tied for the most 3's ????, People dont remember that do they
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:30 PM   #21
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are you ****ing slow? kobe iz an about to be 11 year vet and lebronz a 4year vet you cant compare the two
Brandon Roy is a rookie, but Jacque Vaughn is a veteran. I think we both know whose better.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:06 PM   #22
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true.
kobe is a better defender.
clutch player.
last sec. shot maker.
stronger mind.
stronger will.(reall has that fire in his eyes.)

Shooter(easy)
but i'll give probs when probs are due.
that boy lebron (in the phrase that should fit Ray allen)
HE GOT GAME...


Lol kobe ********.

Heres lebron list
Stronger
More strength
better in the weight room
better at benching
better a climbin.

lol make a list saying the same thing...
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:10 AM   #23
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I love how some of you are praising James for getting to the finals when his team had arguably the easiest route. The only team of note they beat was Detroit. They didnít face Miami, they didnít face the Bulls. Also, itís harder for Kobe, as heís in a way tougher division and he unfortunately had to face the 2nd best team in the league first round. Oh and lets not forget Lebronís horrific final performance. ;)
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:18 PM   #24
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I love how some of you are praising James for getting to the finals when his team had arguably the easiest route. The only team of note they beat was Detroit. They didnít face Miami, they didnít face the Bulls. Also, itís harder for Kobe, as heís in a way tougher division and he unfortunately had to face the 2nd best team in the league first round. Oh and lets not forget Lebronís horrific final performance. ;)

Is it any worse than all of you idiots that think putting one superstar on a team in the East is enough to get them to the finals?

"Put Kobe on any team in the East and it makes the finals! Look what Lebron did!"

"Put KG on any team in the East, and they're automatically contenders!"


And why do you dumbasses always feel the need to compare players, as if it makes a difference in the game of basketball?

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Old 07-09-2007, 03:52 PM   #25
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let's be fair. Kobe is a much better scorer in the sense that he actually has a jumpshot and range. Kobe also has lockdown defense that when you need a stop he will answer. but Lebron can rebound better, gets his teammates involved, and i am sure that if you give players a choice who they want to play with they would choose lebron. lebron will be better, but RIGHT NOW, kobe>lebron.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:25 PM   #26
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Whos better?

in my opinion its kobe
lol obviously ur choice is kobe is all over your name

aand i have to agree with you kobe is better
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:19 AM   #27
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lol obviously ur choice is kobe is all over your name

aand i have to agree with you kobe is better

Hey come on..? Who's better? First Lebron cannot shoot!! I watched the NBA Finals and in those four games there was just few outside shots that lebron made! IN ALL FOUR GAMES!!! I mean the fellow is making millions and can't even make a jump shot!!! Kobe is far better player than Lebron!!

The reason why Lebron scores so many points is that it is so easy to get to the foul line in the NBA these days!

Furthermore, Americans do have a problem In the basketball today, they are pure shooters!! it is no secret why Americans did not win the olympics couple of years ago!!
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:21 PM   #28
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I'll take Kobe everyday

Lebron is one of my favorite players
but Kobe is a beast


Put it like this

One a team full of offensive weapons you should take Lebron
so he can pick is spots and pass the ball

but One a team the truely needs a Leader!
someone to take over a game all by himself when the team is struggling
Im going with Kobe EVERY TIME!
In that final series Kobe woulda won, at least one game.
why cause he's a far better shooter than Lebron
and in that series a scorer was needed not a passer.
Lebron missed a lot of open jumpers in that series
you can't give Kobe open looks or he'll kill you
even if he struggles eventually he's gonna snap out of it and start making you pay!
Kobe woulda been better suited in those finals than Lebron.
Now if Lebron had more weapons on Offensive, take Lebron
also
What lebron did to detroit is no different than kobe's 81 pt explosion!
Kobe does that all the time
he just has a much stronger killer instinct than Lebron
lebron has a great all around game
but Kobe is the greatest scorer since Michael point blank
and while Lebron may be a Better teammate cuz everyone loves a passer
Kobe at this point is still a more dominant force
your gonna see this proven in the olympics
they're gonna win gold easily
cuz no one in international ball has a answer for Kobe NO ONE!
His game is taylor made for international ball
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:44 PM   #29
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Kobe is:
anti clutch
selfish
stats oriented
a brat
terrific outside scorer
descent defender
a michael jordan wannabe(but who isn't?)

LeBron is:
unselfish
fun to watch
all around player
young
mature
great inside scorer
descent defender
great stamina


idk .. if i wanted to win today, i'd pick Kobe ... if i wanted to build a franchise, its LeBron ...
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:37 AM   #30
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Kobe is:
anti clutch
selfish
stats oriented
a brat
terrific outside scorer
descent defender
a michael jordan wannabe(but who isn't?)

LeBron is:
unselfish
fun to watch
all around player
young
mature
great inside scorer
descent defender
great stamina


idk .. if i wanted to win today, i'd pick Kobe ... if i wanted to build a franchise, its LeBron ...



you clearly jus don't like Kobe
he's not selfish
what does it take for people to get off his back
Look Phil tells Kobe to shoot and when not to
early this season Phil said pass and Kobe avg'd 6plus assist
and those are the passes his teamates scored on
2nd he's not a freakin point guard its not his job to distribute the ball
he's asked to because they don't have a pt guard and he draws so much attention from the Defense it creates scoring opportunities for other players
you can't fault a SHOOTING GUARD for not passing more thats an Oximoron!
They call it a shooting Guard cause he's supposed to shoot.
He does what Phil ask when they had a ton of injuries and Phil told Kobe to score. He scored and the lakers won more games!

And Decent defender are you serious
Kobe is one of the most feared defenders in the game Lebron and Wade admitted they wish they was as good defensively as kobe

and Anti Clutch

WHAT?!
THATS BULL
Especially when Lebron passes up so many big shots and passes to incompetent teammates such as Anderson Verjao



I realize everyone loves the next best thing but Lebron ain't better than Kobe
maybe he will be
but definitely not now

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