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Old 10-01-2017, 07:32 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Lakers and Knicks Blockbuster Trade Scenario

Lakers send: Ingram, Randle
Lakers receive: Porzingus, Kuzminskas

Lakers in 2018-19
PG: Ball | Ennis
SG: KCP | Clarkson | Hart
SF: George | Brewer
PF: Kuzma | Nance Jr | Deng
C: Porzingus | Zubac | Bryant

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Old 10-01-2017, 07:32 PM   #2
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Absolutely no rationale for the Knicks to consider this
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:36 PM   #3
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Absolutely no rationale for the Knicks to consider this

Porzingus is disgruntled in New York. It's been clearly evident the past two seasons that he wants out. Just look at all his comments regarding Coach Hornacek. Knicks should trade him now in his second last year to get good value in return. Ingram still has incredible potential. Randle can be a solid rotational piece for them.
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:42 PM   #4
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Porzingus is disgruntled in New York. It's been clearly evident the past two seasons that he wants out. Just look at all his comments regarding Coach Hornacek. Knicks should trade him now in his second last year to get good value in return. Ingram still has incredible potential. Randle can be a solid rotational piece for them.

And the Knicks could get more in return for Porzingis than a sophomore, who is nothing but potential at this point, and an upcoming RFA, that will be vastly overpaid and isn't starter material.
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:29 PM   #5
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somehow at this stage, i dont think ingram's value can get u any top 20...
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:44 PM   #6
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Knicks could get way more than that for KP if they wanted to trade him. But he's not disgruntled in NY, and doesn't want to be traded.

Randle has very little value right now. Kind of like Nerlens Noel last year. No one wants to give him a huge extension, with being so unproven.

Basically you're asking for KP + Kuz (who is still very cheap) for Ingram. No thank you.
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:58 PM   #7
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:39 AM   #8
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No Way would the Lakers do this. Ingram alone is > Porzingus, much less throwing Randle in there too.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:48 AM   #9
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No Way would the Lakers do this. Ingram alone is > Porzingus, much less throwing Randle in there too.


Good. Then tell your Laker buddies to stop making shtty threads like this.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:21 AM   #10
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No Way would the Lakers do this. Ingram alone is > Porzingus, much less throwing Randle in there too.

Delusional. Porzingis has atleast double the value of Ingram, possibly more
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:57 AM   #11
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Delusional. Porzingis has atleast double the value of Ingram, possibly more

And you call me delusional? Porzingus with double, possible more, value than Ingram?

Get outta here.

Porzingus is a very skilled big like a Dirk with better Handles and defense. He has a lot of value and is comparable to Ingram.

I just think Ingram is a better prospect and I'd rather have him than Porzingus, but I can definitely see why Knicks fans are excited about Porzingus because he is going to be a great player.

However, I like Ingram better.

Ingram just turned 20, two years younger than Porzingus, and has all the potential in the world.

I see him as a Durant/Leonard/Kobe combination. He is a very smart basketball player. He can play great defense and knows how to use his ridiculously long arms to bother shots and get steals and deflections.

On offense he is really versatile can post, spot up, or shoot of the dribble. I also love ability to attack out of the triple threat and with his size that is going to be deadly. He is also a good passer and decision maker with Luke Walton actually having him run the offense as a rookie SF. Ingram also has nice handles including a nasty hesitation that he uses to either blow by his defender of pull up for the shot. He definitely needs to gain some weight, but he is only 20 and already has a lot of skill and just oozes potential.
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Old 10-02-2017, 08:23 AM   #12
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And you call me delusional? Porzingus with double, possible more, value than Ingram?

Get outta here.

Porzingus is a very skilled big like a Dirk with better Handles and defense. He has a lot of value and is comparable to Ingram.

I just think Ingram is a better prospect and I'd rather have him than Porzingus, but I can definitely see why Knicks fans are excited about Porzingus because he is going to be a great player.

However, I like Ingram better.

Ingram just turned 20, two years younger than Porzingus, and has all the potential in the world.

I see him as a Durant/Leonard/Kobe combination. He is a very smart basketball player. He can play great defense and knows how to use his ridiculously long arms to bother shots and get steals and deflections.

On offense he is really versatile can post, spot up, or shoot of the dribble. I also love ability to attack out of the triple threat and with his size that is going to be deadly. He is also a good passer and decision maker with Luke Walton actually having him run the offense as a rookie SF. Ingram also has nice handles including a nasty hesitation that he uses to either blow by his defender of pull up for the shot. He definitely needs to gain some weight, but he is only 20 and already has a lot of skill and just oozes potential.

Delusional.

Ingram is a nice prospect, but in the present, he doesnt offer that much.

Porzingis is an all-star level player currently, and has a mix of skills that are super valuable today.

KP has considerably more value than Ingram, and its really not a debate. Only a blind lakers fan can argue that
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Old 10-02-2017, 08:27 AM   #13
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And you call me delusional? Porzingus with double, possible more, value than Ingram?

Get outta here.

Porzingus is a very skilled big like a Dirk with better Handles and defense. He has a lot of value and is comparable to Ingram.

I just think Ingram is a better prospect and I'd rather have him than Porzingus, but I can definitely see why Knicks fans are excited about Porzingus because he is going to be a great player.

However, I like Ingram better.

Ingram just turned 20, two years younger than Porzingus, and has all the potential in the world.

I see him as a Durant/Leonard/Kobe combination. He is a very smart basketball player. He can play great defense and knows how to use his ridiculously long arms to bother shots and get steals and deflections.

On offense he is really versatile can post, spot up, or shoot of the dribble. I also love ability to attack out of the triple threat and with his size that is going to be deadly. He is also a good passer and decision maker with Luke Walton actually having him run the offense as a rookie SF. Ingram also has nice handles including a nasty hesitation that he uses to either blow by his defender of pull up for the shot. He definitely needs to gain some weight, but he is only 20 and already has a lot of skill and just oozes potential.
as a nuggets fan who neither likes the knicks or the lakers

Zinger is at least 4x the value and talent
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:38 PM   #14
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KP second best player of his class. Lakers had their chance with Russell.

No re-visits..... sorry. KP is The Man in NYC right now - and you think he's "disgruntled"?

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Old 10-02-2017, 05:58 PM   #15
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No Way would the Lakers do this. Ingram alone is > Porzingus, much less throwing Randle in there too.

You wouldn't find anyone on the planet that would agree that Ingram is better OR has more value than Kristaps. Even everyone in the Lakers organization would swap them without thinking twice.

And I'm one of the few that believes Staps is overrated and Ingram has a high ceiling without a bust floor.

As far as Randle goes, right now, he isn't really positive value, he's more neutral. Dude's going to be a RFA that's going to expect to be paid. Gauge him around what Nerlens Noel was last year.
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