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Old 11-08-2017, 02:37 PM   #16
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Default Re: Today is the anniversary of a MONUMENTAL day in History

What a night that was. I called out from work. Glad I did, it was truly historic. A day I'll never forget in my life and will share with my kids and grand kids.
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:45 PM   #17
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Polls are very reliable...are they 100% correct? No.

Just yesterday polls were correct at very impressive rate.

Even Republicans believe in polls, every campaign employs GOP pollsters, Trump used to brag about polls FFS before his numbers took a big dip...

So most of the 2016 General Elections polls were wrong, like I said, they aren't always 100% correct, but if you guys really believe they are ALWAYS wrong, well you guys are just being willfully ignorant because of how poorly Trump is doing. You guys act as if Trump curbstomped Clinton, he basically took 3 states by less than 1% of the total vote (WI, PN, MI) and she still ended up with 3 million more votes than him.

Lol at you guys thinking he can replicate that victory again, seeing as how the left has been reinvigorated, how poorly he has been at the legislative front and how badly damaged his administration has been because of the federal indictments that have been handed out and the ones still coming, plus the trials that will be happening next year.

If you're citing Trump as an example for anything...

I get what you're saying, and I fully expect the DNC to win quite a few elections over the next several years, because as you pointed out, that's what has happened in the past.

But what we saw last night can't be qualified as 'a big win', unless you consider a 'big win' not losing seats you already had.

By the way, over the last two or three weeks, your posts have been a lot less confrontational and with a lot more substance. You make it hard to talk shit to you.

What's gotten into you lately?
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:50 PM   #18
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that was a great night

went to sleep at like 10AM
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:51 PM   #19
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by winning California by 10 million votes. Sorry California but you don't get to decide who gets to be president all by yourself.
But WI, PN and MI basically gave Trump the presidency by a few thousand votes

Just as you can claim that California does not have the right to decide the presidency all by themselves by running up the score, I can claim that it is equally undemocratic for 3 states that were decided by a statistically insignificant amount of votes overall to decide the presidency for the rest of us, even more so considering the fact that the majority of the American people voted against him.

Obama never had that issue, yet Trump tried to delegitimize him for years.

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Old 11-08-2017, 02:59 PM   #20
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If you're citing Trump as an example for anything...

I get what you're saying, and I fully expect the DNC to win quite a few elections over the next several years, because as you pointed out, that's what has happened in the past.

But what we saw last night can't be qualified as 'a big win', unless you consider a 'big win' not losing seats you already had.

By the way, over the last two or three weeks, your posts have been a lot less confrontational and with a lot more substance. You make it hard to talk shit to you.

What's gotten into you lately?
Not really noticed anything different. I don't really "hate" anyone here, I get into it with several posters here but for all I know, they might be nice guys to hang out with IRL. I don't take the sh*t talking here too seriously.

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Old 11-08-2017, 03:15 PM   #21
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by winning California by 10 million votes. Sorry California but you don't get to decide who gets to be president all by yourself.

That's a mighty fine number you just pulled from your ass.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:21 PM   #22
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seeing as how the left has been reinvigorated

By coming out as the rigging party?
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:27 PM   #23
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Just an outlier huh? LOL you guys are pathetic with your excuses. Even with skewed polls and 90% of the media in favor of Hillary, she still couldn't beat the Trump train. I don't know what's more pathetic. The fact that she lost, or the fact that there are people (like you) that still can't come to terms with it.

What excuses? I wasn't attempting to diminish Trump's victory, dummy. Based on the rules, he won fair and square.

2016 was an outlier in terms of presidential poll accuracy. Normally they are spot on but there were inaccuracies at the state level in 2016 that no one saw coming until election night. But I wouldn't dismiss any and all future polls as "fake news" because of it.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:27 PM   #24
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But WI, PN and MI basically gave Trump the presidency by a few thousand votes

Just as you can claim that California does not have the right to decide the presidency all by themselves by running up the score, I can claim that it is equally undemocratic for 3 states that were decided by a statistically insignificant amount of votes overall to decide the presidency for the rest of us, even more so considering the fact that the majority of the American people voted against him.

Obama never had that issue, yet Trump tried to delegitimize him for years.

Hillary ignored those states because like you she believed the polls. Trump's people knew that if he ignored the polls and kept going back to those states he could make up ground with his message.

To win a presidential election you have to win states. Hillary knew that too. She may have had huge numbers of votes in certain states but not enough states to win.

You guys will never get over the loss apparently. Oh well.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:30 PM   #25
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Trump, the guadiest asshole alive, rented out a tiny auditorium on election night. Even he thought he was going to lose.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:30 PM   #26
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Normally they are spot on


Like when the polls said Reagan and Carter were too close to call on election day?

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Old 11-08-2017, 03:33 PM   #27
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Like when the polls said Reagan and Carter were too close to call on election day?


Really? Which one?

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Old 11-08-2017, 03:33 PM   #28
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Trump, the guadiest asshole alive, rented out a tiny auditorium on election night. Even he thought he was going to lose.


Hillary had the Javits Center packed to the gills and then didn't even show up to thank her supporters, instead throwing a drunken fit in her hotel.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:37 PM   #29
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Really? Which one?



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In a Gallup poll on October 26th in 1980, two weeks before the election, Gallup had it Jimmy Carter 47, Ronald Reagan 39. That election two weeks later ended up in a landslide that was so big that Carter conceded before California closed.



Reagan had made up ground on election day but the MSM still reported it was too close to call.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:56 PM   #30
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Reagan had made up ground on election day but the MSM still reported it was too close to call.

Irrelevant. The polls had Reagan winning comfortably.

Reagan didn't make up ground either, he was the poll leader from May 1980 until election day.
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