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Old 11-10-2017, 12:43 PM   #31
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pretty sure Kobe held the ball more than Bron, especially waited longer to make his move. Weak show off.

No. He did make his move (he actually had moves to begin with). It just took him way to long on many occasions to finish his move.

Honestly... which year did you start watching basketball and how old are you? I'm just curious. If you are under 25 or even under 30... I understand.
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Old 11-10-2017, 01:25 PM   #32
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Already dreaming of LaLa Land.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:04 PM   #33
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He's a rhythm player on offense. He's struggling mightily not having the ball in his hands like he did in Indiana. His defense has been really good but man he looks terrible out there offensively.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:16 PM   #34
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Ball
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Holy fk.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:25 PM   #35
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Holy fk.


I'm not a big fan of an older and as of yet much better player joining the Lakers. It will make it very hard for young players to develop as a group. I'm not smelling a championship with Paul George, I'd much rather have these young guys figuring it out.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:28 PM   #36
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No, there is a difference dude.

Kobe shot a lot. He was also the bail out guy when there was no scoring option on actual plays being run by the entire team. Triangle preaches ball movement.

A ball dominance type is Westbrick, Harden, LeBron, CP3.

Time of possession with the ball nearly strictly in their hands to make decisions the entire time. Thus, more gaudy all around stats but at certain point for their team they become debilitating.


People refuse to acknowledge the difference between a shot jacker and a ball monopolizer...always conflating the two.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:31 PM   #37
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I agree. You worded it better. Kobe didn't hold onto the ball all the time. He made a move. He wasn't as decisive as Jordan and he wasn't as good a decesion maker. (And less of an athlete.) But Kobe played basketball. Harden plays something else... I have no good term for it.. slow-mo basketball with some spurts.... not 1 on 1 or 1 on 5... just a very slow, ugly brand of basketball which makes him look good as far as stats are concerned... but he kills the entire team in the process. (LeBron does the same with higher speed.. and he is a lot better player to begin with.)


harden probes too much, and flops too much, but i dont think he "kills" his team... being able to shoot and space makes him more valuable. Ball dominators that cant shoot are the worst because they dont finish for their teammates, dont space for their teammates and dont let their teammates feel the ball.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:40 PM   #38
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People refuse to acknowledge the difference between a shot jacker and a ball monopolizer...always conflating the two.


He was right. I see the difference but was unable to convey my thoughts properly.
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Old 11-10-2017, 03:27 PM   #39
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He's a rhythm player on offense. He's struggling mightily not having the ball in his hands like he did in Indiana. His defense has been really good but man he looks terrible out there offensively.
He has never been that efficient anyways.
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Old 11-10-2017, 03:29 PM   #40
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He has never been that efficient anyways.

Kind of a problem when OKC's top 3 scorers are inefficient. But I'm still thinking they figure it out.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:14 PM   #41
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PG has always played slow. He lacks foresight and anticipation. Thatís why he didnít fit the roster in Indiana. They surrounded him with a bunch of transition players.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:16 PM   #42
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George has the same problem Pippen used to have when he played with Olajuwon and Barkley on the Rockets. As the younger and less ball monopolizing player, he gets affected the most of the Big Three.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:30 PM   #43
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No. He did make his move (he actually had moves to begin with). It just took him way to long on many occasions to finish his move.

Honestly... which year did you start watching basketball and how old are you? I'm just curious. If you are under 25 or even under 30... I understand.

Kobe, sadly, was the worst of both worlds: chucker and ball dominator.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:42 PM   #44
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Kobe, sadly, was the worst of both worlds: chucker and ball dominator.

I can live with your opinion as long as you can live with mine. Here it goes:

LeBron is still a child in a grown man's body and has severe personality issues. His offensive game is mostly boring, commits 10 offensive fouls on average each game, along witn 15 travelling violations and a few double dribbles. He makes very good players playing with him worse, he doesn't know how to take responsibility for his actions and shortcomings. He still is a top 10 player all time, but with the physical tools he was born with he should be #1. In that sense, he is a failure.

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Old 11-10-2017, 04:56 PM   #45
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He will never win a ring as the best player on a team. Neither will Westbrook.

This is fact.

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I can live with your opinion as long as you can live with mine. Here is goes:

LeBron is still a child in a grown man's body and has severe personality issues. His offensive game is mostly boring, commits 10 offensive fouls on average each game, along witn 15 travelling violations and a few double dribbles. He makes very good players playing with him worse, he doesn't know how to take responsibility for his actions and shortcomings. He still is a top 10 player all time, but with the physical tools he was born with he should be #1. In that sense, he is a failure

More fact.

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