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Old 12-29-2017, 12:39 PM   #31
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Default Re: Why did the vote to impeach Trump fail 364-58?

Because the people in the US have no control over their government.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:52 PM   #32
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Because the people in the US have no control over their government.

So where do you live exactly?
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:17 PM   #33
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You just...

You just literally said politicians should be hording authority and passing invasive, self-serving, unconstitutional laws on a regular basis... because they make $200k per year and we need to justify that expenditure.



I...



I...


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No dummy... go look at how Germany runs the programs in its government and how they tackle infrastructure of every kind with efficiency. Japan as well. I would like the people were paying high salaries for in our government to actually...do their job. Amazing idea right!
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:21 PM   #34
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No dummy... go look at how Germany runs the programs in its government and how they tackle infrastructure of every kind with efficiency. Japan as well. I would like the people were paying high salaries for in our government to actually...do their job. Amazing idea right!




I said I oppose concentrating government authority because it leads to abuses and corruption from lying politicians. You continuously VOTE FOR MORE GOVERNMENT POWER.

Those are facts, right? I vote for small government, and I gave my reason. You vote for big government.

You then said your reason was "they make $200k per year, so they have to do stuff!"





I'm against Big Gov because it leads inevitably to corruption, exploitation, dishonesty, secrecy, intrusion, etc.

You support Big Gov because we can't just pay them $200k per year to do nothing.



Everyone here can judge each argument for themselves. I mean, I don't know what to say at this point.

You just blurted out one of the Top 5 most retarded things anyone has ever said on ISH. So... yeah.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:38 PM   #35
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Germany has a bigger government than we do relative to its population size. They have better infrastructure of every kind. Public education, healthcare, roads, business regs... they sweep us. That alone is proof that it is possible for government to be competent...just like any other coalition of people working together towards a common goal. Yes I think it would be nice if our government provided better quality services to help its people instead of pissing it all away on bribes and wars. You...think thats all fine and dandy, and are ok with paying these people all this money to do nothing. I acknowledge both sides have serious problems and would love to see fixes...you plug your ears and cry about social warriors and liberals. Smarten up!
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:59 PM   #36
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Germany has a bigger government than we do relative to its population size. They have better infrastructure of every kind. Public education, healthcare, roads, business regs... they sweep us. That alone is proof that it is possible for government to be competent...just like any other coalition of people working together towards a common goal. Yes I think it would be nice if our government provided better quality services to help its people instead of pissing it all away on bribes and wars. You...think thats all fine and dandy, and are ok with paying these people all this money to do nothing. I acknowledge both sides have serious problems and would love to see fixes...you plug your ears and cry about social warriors and liberals. Smarten up!


So then will you finally answer the question from the OP? So far youve played “well but republicans did x!” as well as divert the topic to entirely different subjects.

Can you explain why 58 Democrats voted to impeach Trump and the rest didnt?

Can you tell us which ones you think did the right thing?

Will you answer the actual question in the OP?
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:09 PM   #37
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So then will you finally answer the question from the OP? So far youve played “well but republicans did x!” as well as divert the topic to entirely different subjects.

Can you explain why 58 Democrats voted to impeach Trump and the rest didnt?

Can you tell us which ones you think did the right thing?

Will you answer the actual question in the OP?

the same reason why conservatives would vote to keep trump in office with sufficient reason to impeach him. because some of them are shameless, just like people in general.

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Old 12-29-2017, 02:22 PM   #38
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the same reason why conservatives would vote to keep trump in office with sufficient reason to impeach him. because some of them are shameless, just like people in general.


And so we want to give shameless, self interested people more or less power to control our lives?
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:25 PM   #39
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So then will you finally answer the question from the OP? So far youve played “well but republicans did x!” as well as divert the topic to entirely different subjects.

Can you explain why 58 Democrats voted to impeach Trump and the rest didnt?

Can you tell us which ones you think did the right thing?

Will you answer the actual question in the OP?



My example was perfectly relevant to the topic... both sides saying something for so long and doing another. It happens on both sides. They both need to smarten up and start doing what theyre being paid big bucks to do. Keep tilting your mug at the sky and screamin about da liberals doe!!! Its hilarious because youve morphed into the snowflake that you always holler about. Like a pansy version of "beware of ye that does battle with monsters"...LOL
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:28 PM   #40
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So where do you live exactly?
How does that relate to the fact that your country is run by the corporations?
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:40 PM   #41
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And so we want to give shameless, self interested people more or less power to control our lives?

we want to vote in politicians whom have and will uphold integrity.
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:50 PM   #42
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My example was perfectly relevant to the topic... both sides saying something for so long and doing another. It happens on both sides. They both need to smarten up and start doing what theyre being paid big bucks to do. Keep tilting your mug at the sky and screamin about da liberals doe!!! Its hilarious because youve morphed into the snowflake that you always holler about. Like a pansy version of "beware of ye that does battle with monsters"...LOL




And that is... what?
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:18 PM   #43
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Default Re: Why did the vote to impeach Trump fail 364-58?

Since tpols brought up Germany as an example of working big government, I wonder if he knows that Germany actually doesn’t even have a government at the moment.
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Old 12-29-2017, 05:53 PM   #44
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Since tpols brought up Germany as an example of working big government, I wonder if he knows that Germany actually doesn’t even have a government at the moment.
Which is also ignorant for another reason, Germany is a federal republic and each state has its own government with ministers, etc, which are largely responsible for managing and running things.
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Old 12-29-2017, 06:02 PM   #45
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Which is also ignorant for another reason, Germany is a federal republic and each state has its own government with ministers, etc, which are largely responsible for managing and running things.


In America, “states rights are teh racist!”
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