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Old 01-02-2018, 02:47 AM   #16
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First off, I think this is the right thing to do.

That being said...

The idea that American dollar diplomacy is born out of altruism is laughable.

We pay money because it is cheaper than cleaning up the mess.

Pakistan will decay into a larger mess and it will leave us two shitty options.

1-clean up the mess (which is good for our bottom line, but more expensive than just buying them off).

2-watch them become a Chinese economic colony (see China's Belt and Road Initiative).

Maybe we want two, because we can back India and watch China throw money foolishly and contradict themselves as a non-interference country.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:04 AM   #17
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Trump signed a 110 billion weapon deal with Saudi Arabia, a country that has confirmed ties to 9/11

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...h-saudi-arabia

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7938791.html

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Old 01-02-2018, 09:15 AM   #18
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Trump signed a 110 billion weapon deal with Saudi Arabia, a country that has confirmed ties to 9/11

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...h-saudi-arabia

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7938791.html

Money always talks...

Saudi's help drive our agenda which is why so many of our enemys hate them. Pakistan does **** all for us...
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:34 AM   #19
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He said in his post "Why doesn't he say the same about Saudi Arabia"


I posted a link where he literally condemned Saudi Arabia , and then LakersF@gg moved the goal posts because he was proven flat out wrong, and you were like "teee hee, yeah, got eeem!!!!"

You're an idiot. Do you not see that?
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:40 AM   #20
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Money always talks...

Saudi's help drive our agenda which is why so many of our enemys hate them. Pakistan does **** all for us...


they f*ck with our Afghanistan agenda, but they keep India (a strategic rival in many senses but an ally and a sleeping giant) fearful and spending lots of money on defense.

India will be useful keeping China in check and the more they can buy our weapons and bolster their defenses the more useful they will be. Pakistan is their motivation.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:48 AM   #21
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One simply cannot go around dissing countries on Twitter, even if he is correct on Pakistan.

That is not diplomatic.

This idiot will do more harm than good with his fake tough guy talk. He is an idiot that does not understand the sensitive world of international politics and diplomacy.

What a moron.

I've seen better restraint and diplomacy from a McDonald's cashier than this Dotard.

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Old 01-02-2018, 10:01 AM   #22
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One simply cannot go around dissing countries on Twitter, even if he is correct on Pakistan.



So you weren't worried that Obama's drone strikes that take out innocent women and children in foreign countries is too provoking and might cause a backlash against Americans... but Trump's tough talk on Twitter goes too far?


Why don't you just admit that you're entirely partisan, and as long as Democratic politicians say heart-warming things like "We believe in tolerance and diversity, we care about minorities, intersectional feminism is super important" etc, you don't care what kind of violence, manipulation, financial fraud, etc they carry out.

WHereas if a conservative says "Hey, we're not here to babysit minorities, and what's up with all these towelheads?" you'll try to undermine them by accusing them of violence, manipulation, financial fraud etc.?

You are ruled ENTIRELY by emotions. The politicians who stroke your sensitive need to fit in and be accepted are given carte blanche to do anything they want. The ones who seem arrogant and uninterested in your neediness are evil and nefarious. Even if the two sides do the exact same thing. You'll perceive it drastically different based on how emotional you are.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:05 AM   #23
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While Trump is correct about Pakistan, they do some of our dirty work.

International politics is shady business and isn't as black and white as people make it out to be. Everyone plays with both sides, experts were weighed in on Pakistan they simply didn't get money for shits and giggles. And there certainly are repercussions that they face. Ya'll think military/intelligence leaders are pacifist peaceniks that will simply ignore and forgive if Pakistan f*cked us over?

NO

This shit aint that simple.

Im positive the US has made Pakistan and everyone else that double crossed them at some point pay back in some fashion.

Do not be fooled.

The US IS the top dog.

No matter what Trump wants to make you believe, the US is nobody's b*tch as he likes to portray. The people in the intelligence communities are not idiotic p*ssies.

We still have the most prestige/influence/power in the world (although Trump is starting to dismantle that) and at times we need to give in some to get back.

There's a hidden agenda that Trump wants to push that we're not keen on (for the moment).
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:08 AM   #24
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So you weren't worried that Obama's drone strikes that take out innocent women and children in foreign countries is too provoking and might cause a backlash against Americans... but Trump's tough talk on Twitter goes too far?


Why don't you just admit that you're entirely partisan, and as long as Democratic politicians say heart-warming things like "We believe in tolerance and diversity, we care about minorities, intersectional feminism is super important" etc, you don't care what kind of violence, manipulation, financial fraud, etc they carry out.

WHereas if a conservative says "Hey, we're not here to babysit minorities, and what's up with all these towelheads?" you'll try to undermine them by accusing them of violence, manipulation, financial fraud etc.?

You are ruled ENTIRELY by emotions. The politicians who stroke your sensitive need to fit in and be accepted are given carte blanche to do anything they want. The ones who seem arrogant and uninterested in your neediness are evil and nefarious. Even if the two sides do the exact same thing. You'll perceive it drastically different based on how emotional you are.

F*ck off.

who cares about Obama? he's gone.

Even then, there was people criticizing Obama and his administration by liberals for his bombings. And even then that is utterly different from what Trump is doing.

Trump is acting like a fool on Twitter that can harm international relations. What Obama did was a military strike that was far from off the cuff rant.

If you fail to see the difference in the two YOU are the one that's ENTIRELY ruled by emotions.

Btw.. Im not a Democrat, f*ck them too.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:08 AM   #25
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While Trump is correct about Pakistan, they do some of our dirty work.

International politics is shady business and isn't as black and white as people make it out to be. Everyone plays with both sides, experts were weighed in on Pakistan they simply didn't get money for shits and giggles. And there certainly are repercussions that they face. Ya'll think military/intelligence leaders are pacifist peaceniks that will simply ignore and forgive if Pakistan f*cked us over?

NO

This shit aint that simple.

Im positive the US has made Pakistan and everyone else that double crossed them at some point pay back in some fashion.

Do not be fooled.

The US IS the top dog.

No matter what Trump wants to make you believe, the US is nobody's b*tch as he likes to portray. The people in the intelligence communities are not idiotic p*ssies.

We still have the most prestige/influence/power in the world (although Trump is starting to dismantle that) and at times we need to give in some to get back.

There's a hidden agenda that Trump wants to push that we're not keen on (for the moment).

You've got Trump in your avatar.

Every post you make is Trump-fueled rage.


You have no credibility because everyone knows your end-goal in every discussion is to blame Trump for something. You BEGIN with the premise "I hate Trump, everything is Trump's fault" and then you try and make arguments that conveniently push every single issue toward that goal.

You have NO credibility.

You are a Trump obsessed lunatic. That's all anyone here sees you as.



Just want you to know that, bro. I think you need help. I want you to get the help you need.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:10 AM   #26
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F*ck off.

who cares about Obama? he's gone.

Even then, there was people criticizing Obama and his administration by liberals for his bombings. And even then that is utterly different from what Trump is doing.

Trump is acting like a fool on Twitter that can harm international relations. What Obama did was a military strike that was far from off the cuff rant.

If you fail to see the difference in the two YOU are the one that's ENTIRELY ruled by emotions.

Btw.. Im not a Democrat, f*ck them too.


So you would rather have tax dollars soaked up to drop bombs on innocents, than have a President say some impetuous things on Twitter.

Cause I don't remember YOU complaining about ANYTHING the last President did. Although I'm sure if we look it up, you were angry about Bush dropping bombs in the sandbox etc.


You ARE a Democrat. Stop lying.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:14 AM   #27
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F*ck off.

who cares about Obama? he's gone.

Even then, there was people criticizing Obama and his administration by liberals for his bombings. And even then that is utterly different from what Trump is doing.

Trump is acting like a fool on Twitter that can harm international relations. What Obama did was a military strike that was far from off the cuff rant.

If you fail to see the difference in the two YOU are the one that's ENTIRELY ruled by emotions.

Btw.. Im not a Democrat, f*ck them too.

What exactly is your problem with the tweet? All of it is true, and it's informing the American Citizens how our money is being spent. 15B with a B is going to waste. No more! America First
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:15 AM   #28
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You've got Trump in your avatar.

Every post you make is Trump-fueled rage.


You have no credibility because everyone knows your end-goal in every discussion is to blame Trump for something. You BEGIN with the premise "I hate Trump, everything is Trump's fault" and then you try and make arguments that conveniently push every single issue toward that goal.

You have NO credibility.

You are a Trump obsessed lunatic. That's all anyone here sees you as.



Just want you to know that, bro. I think you need help. I want you to get the help you need.

Awww poor snowflake got triggered.

You should go into your comfort zone.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:16 AM   #29
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Awww poor snowflake got triggered.

You should go into your comfort zone.


You're getting defensive cause I exposed you as a phony?

Bro, everyone is watching.

Better explain yourself quick, because right now we all see you as a blindly partisan fraud. A pawn for the DNC.

Is that the height of your intellectual capacity? Just an ignorant and obedient pawn for the Democratic party?

That's what you've shown yourself to be, brother.

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Old 01-02-2018, 10:19 AM   #30
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Youre a confirmed racist, but Ill set you straight anyway.


so Trump condemned SA for their violence against yemen.. yet he literally sold them the weapons to carry out the atrocities. I wouldnt say the word hypocrisy would even cover it.
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