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Old 03-02-2018, 08:10 AM   #1
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Default Angela Merkel admits German NO-GO zones are 'a REALITY'

Remember when this was first brought up, and many tried to dismiss the situation as a 'right-wing fantasy'?

Welp, welcome to reality.

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The German Chancellor, who is approaching her fourth term in office, confessed there are places in her nation “where people are afraid to go”.

Her shocking comments come after a shock report revealed gangs of men are preventing people from straying into once vibrant areas of the country for fear of violence and abuse that even law enforcement has been unable to control.

During an interview with n-tv on Monday, she said: “The state has to ensure that whenever people move or meet in public areas they feel safe.

“It means for example that there cannot be any no-go areas, that there cannot be areas where people are afraid to go - but such places are a reality.

“So we have to call them what they are and do something about them. “

At the start of this year, Police Union chief Rainer Wendt claimed authorities are unable to enforce the law thanks to the rise of dangerous no-go zones caused as a result of mass immigration.

He demanded German politicians get crime levels under control or risk “police-free zones in Germany”.

The police chief said the no-go areas could end up being ruled under criminal laws or even Sharia law, rather than those set out by the German government.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...refugee-crisis
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:47 AM   #2
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Germany has one of the most elite economies in the world, highest qualities of life, a government thats running the largest trade surplus in the world, every citizen has access to high quality schooling and training of every kind, every person has access to healthcare with better outcomes for less money paid, and they are state of the art in pretty much everything. Their public and private sectors are both booming.

USA otoh is running the largest trade deficit in the history of the world, its government is completely incapable of developing or implementing any successful infrastructure, is cycling in and out of depressions, and as far as no-go zones go, it is riddled with more ghettos and violence than all of Europe combined nevermind Germany.
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:51 AM   #3
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Default Re: Angela Merkel admits German NO-GO zones are 'a REALITY'

After years of these cuck politicians in Europe and many idiot ISH residents telling us there was no such thing, they are finally going to have to come clean on something we all knew was happening .

I mean what did they expect? Most of these people are uneducated, unskilled and come from a backwards culture. The long term unemployment prospect for a German refugee is 75%. Of course there's roving bands of idiots wandering the streets with nowhere to be and nothing to do. The worst thing is, eventually they are going to have to start kicking these people out, and that's when the Hitleresque bloodbath begins, all created by liberals.

Sometimes you have to wonder if aliens are controlling some people's brains, particularly those in power. Why else would someone be so self destructive and purposely create a certain disaster to walk straight into?
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:58 AM   #4
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Germany has one of the most elite economies in the world, highest qualities of life, a government thats running the largest trade surplus in the world, every citizen has access to high quality schooling and training of every kind, every person has access to healthcare with better outcomes for less money paid, and they are state of the art in pretty much everything. Their public and private sectors are both booming.

USA otoh is running the largest trade deficit in the history of the world, its government is completely incapable of developing or implementing any successful infrastructure, is cycling in and out of depressions, and as far as no-go zones go, it is riddled with more ghettos and violence than all of Europe combined nevermind Germany.
Mate, that doesn't change that there has been some new issues in Germany due to their poor immigration policy. I'm not against inviting immigrants to country, but they should have taken their time with due process.

What you are doing is what somebody does in a losing argument. Change the topic (in this case US).
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:10 AM   #5
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Mate, that doesn't change that there has been some new issues in Germany due to their poor immigration policy. I'm not against inviting immigrants to country, but they should have taken their time with due process.

What you are doing is what somebody does in a losing argument. Change the topic (in this case US).


Its just funny to see a USA citizen complain about germany governments job when his own government has been hilariously incompetent in almost every way by comparison.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:12 AM   #6
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Germany has one of the most elite economies in the world, highest qualities of life, a government thats running the largest trade surplus in the world, every citizen has access to high quality schooling and training of every kind, every person has access to healthcare with better outcomes for less money paid, and they are state of the art in pretty much everything. Their public and private sectors are both booming.

USA otoh is running the largest trade deficit in the history of the world, its government is completely incapable of developing or implementing any successful infrastructure, is cycling in and out of depressions, and as far as no-go zones go, it is riddled with more ghettos and violence than all of Europe combined nevermind Germany.

How is this related to no-go zones?

Or rather, the incessant denial of such zones, when the truth was, they have existed all along?
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:19 AM   #7
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Default Re: Angela Merkel admits German NO-GO zones are 'a REALITY'

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Germany has one of the most elite economies in the world, highest qualities of life, a government thats running the largest trade surplus in the world, every citizen has access to high quality schooling and training of every kind, every person has access to healthcare with better outcomes for less money paid, and they are state of the art in pretty much everything. Their public and private sectors are both booming.

USA otoh is running the largest trade deficit in the history of the world, its government is completely incapable of developing or implementing any successful infrastructure, is cycling in and out of depressions, and as far as no-go zones go, it is riddled with more ghettos and violence than all of Europe combined nevermind Germany.
Germany is doing a lot of those things because of Euro being pegged lower than a Mark would be which allows them to dominate Europe with exports.

Imagine if the US was in an union currency with Mexico and every country south of it but that common currency was a peso. That would change that trade balance a little bit I imagine.

Not to mention that not all is so great and bright as you portray it. The economic inequality is growing in Germany even faster than in the US for example and yet their famous surplus isn't being used to do anything about that, the military is in complete shambles to the point that even Poland could roll over the country in a week. They have been pushing some highly questionable energy policies (anti-nuclear, Nordstream 2) which are further alienating other countries and of course their migration policies have been a complete catastrophe for Europe and EU.

Also your point about education really misses the mark. Not everyone has access to whatever education they want - after the primary education everyone is sorted out by their performance and promptly shuffled into an appropriate tier for education, with only the best being admitted into tertiary education afterwards. The US would certainly benefit from this kind of a system as it would prevent a whole lot of cretins from wasting time and money on education they are clearly incapable of achieving.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:25 AM   #8
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Default Re: Angela Merkel admits German NO-GO zones are 'a REALITY'

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Germany has one of the most elite economies in the world, highest qualities of life, a government thats running the largest trade surplus in the world, every citizen has access to high quality schooling and training of every kind, every person has access to healthcare with better outcomes for less money paid, and they are state of the art in pretty much everything. Their public and private sectors are both booming.

USA otoh is running the largest trade deficit in the history of the world, its government is completely incapable of developing or implementing any successful infrastructure, is cycling in and out of depressions, and as far as no-go zones go, it is riddled with more ghettos and violence than all of Europe combined nevermind Germany.
The US government was busy spending money on ways to drive refugees to Germany.
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:26 AM   #9
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Germany is doing a lot of those things because of Euro being pegged lower than a Mark would be which allows them to dominate Europe with exports.

Imagine if the US was in an union currency with Mexico and every country south of it but that common currency was a peso. That would change that trade balance a little bit I imagine.

Not to mention that not all is so great and bright as you portray it. The economic inequality is growing in Germany even faster than in the US for example and yet their famous surplus isn't being used to do anything about that, the military is in complete shambles to the point that even Poland could roll over the country in a week. They have been pushing some highly questionable energy policies (anti-nuclear, Nordstream 2) which are further alienating other countries and of course their migration policies have been a complete catastrophe for Europe and EU.

Also your point about education really misses the mark. Not everyone has access to whatever education they want - after the primary education everyone is sorted out by their performance and promptly shuffled into an appropriate tier for education, with only the best being admitted into tertiary education afterwards. The US would certainly benefit from this kind of a system as it would prevent a whole lot of cretins from wasting time and money on education they are clearly incapable of achieving.


How so to the red? I said schooling and training. Im well aware that they segment people based on performance and don't have lower performers waste time and money in higher learning. That's why I said training too. Their whole system for everything is better.

in America everything is a corporation, even schools and hospitals. Corporations don't care if they admit kids that will waste 20k before flunking out. They love that.

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Old 03-02-2018, 09:34 AM   #10
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How so to the red? I said schooling and training. Im well aware that they segment people based on performance and don't have lower performers waste time and money in higher learning. That's why I said training too. Their whole system for everything is better.

in America everything is a corporation, even schools and hospitals. Corporations don't care if they admit kids that will waste 20k before flunking out. They love that.

So this is a morality thing?

Is that what this all stems from? You're a socialist? Everything needs to be done for the betterment of society?
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:36 AM   #11
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So this is a morality thing?

Is that what this all stems from? You're a socialist? Everything needs to be done for the betterment of society?


whatever buzz words you want to use... their system is probably the best in the world, certainly above ours, by literally every measure. And yes their society is much healthier.

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Old 03-02-2018, 09:51 AM   #12
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whatever buzz words you want to use... their system is probably the best in the world, certainly above ours, by literally every measure. And yes their society is much healthier.

Much healthier for... who?

For the poor? Sure. For everyone else? Not really. That's what you get with a capitalist society. There will ALWAYS be an underclass. There has to be, because the nature of capitalism. I have no problem with that, seeing as by and large, the system will sort out the winners from the losers more often then not.

I get it, it IS a morality issue. You believe everyone should be more equal in regards to, well, everything, correct? Equal schools, equal pay, equal size houses, equal vacations, equal everything?

You should go live there and be equal. I will continue living here and excelling. The difference between us is if my neighbor doesn't want to put in the work that I am willing to, I have no qualms with surpassing him. If your neighbor doesn't want to put in the work that you are willing to... I am assuming you'll just give him the excess compensation you received for your extra hard work?

To each their own, I guess.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:03 AM   #13
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Much healthier for... who?



Everyone.


The people in Germany at the top are still rich dude. They live in big houses, drive mercedes and audis... take vacations at beautiful places all around them... they live the same as USA elite. But their middle class is much healthier. People in USA are broke far past the bottom 20%... its becoming like 50+ %. Our middle class is morphing with our lower.

You realize not everybody in Germany is equal right? that it isnt isn't a bloc of everything the same right? Its just like here except with middle class having much better financial security and better access to public services. and a better total country economic situation as a result of a healthier workforce and competent policy.


Why do you turn everything into a cartoon of what it really is ? Where are the german gulags and bread ration lines comrade?
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:13 AM   #14
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Its just funny to see a USA citizen complain about germany governments job when his own government has been hilariously incompetent in almost every way by comparison.


You're becoming quite unbearable on this forum. Why don't you leave?


Move to Germany. Convert to Islam while you're at it.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:26 AM   #15
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i really dont understand why you guys are always coming up with the "socialism" accusation. we have something called the "social market economy". i tell you what: yes its true that we have high taxes and high social security contributions, yes we have free university, yes health care is cheap in comparison to the usa, yes every child up the age of 25 has free access to health care, yes we have a labour law that protects the workers, we dont have the hire and fire mentality. yes, every employeur is firced to pay half of the cost for the unemployment-, nursing care-, and health insurence. yes, we have big labour unions and basically every firm above 30 or 50 workers has irs own employee representative/workers committe. and do you know what? still... we have 1.2 million millionairs and more than 200 billionairs

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saying that im completely with you uk2k regarding immigration. costs right know: 50 billion every year, because they all have access to free healrh care, rent is oaid by the state, for every child immigrants get 230€ . and they have 405€ pocket money.

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