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Old 03-07-2018, 08:47 AM   #31
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1. They're both backing up rookies right now.

2. One's an elite defender, the other has no defensive impact at all.

3. Who do you think has drained more game winners in their respective careers? The answer might surprise you.

4. Isaiah Thomas was an MVP candidate last year, but what has he done of not so far this year?

5. McConnell has more non-OT triple double games.

McConnell plays a bigger role on a better team.

1. Yes so they can plan for the future
2. Vice versa on offense
3. Id assume isiah but i didnt look
4. He has slowly made progress after a bad injury
5.who cares

It carroed a team to num 1 seed
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Old 03-07-2018, 11:31 AM   #32
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Fred Van, Rozier, and Satoransky. I think those are clearly the top 3. Then you have Patty Mills, Trey Burke, Cory Joseph, some others.
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Old 03-07-2018, 11:42 AM   #33
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Marcus Smart and it isn't even close. No one listed is capable of defending and shutting down anything from a point guard to a small forward.
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Old 03-07-2018, 01:22 PM   #34
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1. Yes so they can plan for the future
2. Vice versa on offense
3. Id assume isiah but i didnt look
4. He has slowly made progress after a bad injury
5.who cares

It carroed a team to num 1 seed
On the 2nd point you're dead wrong. 3rd is McConnell.

Would you rather have:

Player A: 15 PPG, 5 APG, 3 TOPG, shooting FG 37%, 3P 28% in 26MPG, USG 30 %

Player B: 7 PPG, 6 APG, 1 TOPG, shooting FG 50%, 3P 47% in 24 MPG, USG 14%
Virtually every advanced metric, both offensive and defensive, favors player B, or McConnell, by a considerable margin.

Player A is taking over TWICE AS MANY shots per game more than player B.

If Philly offered Cleveland TJ for IT, Cleveland would've accepted it in a heart beat. TJ has a bigger IMPACT on BOTH ends.
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Old 03-07-2018, 01:28 PM   #35
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In terms of value TJ is definitely up there. He's a multivitamin. Fills gaps where needed. Doesn't need to be a focus, just does his job. Every team needs a TJ Mac. He's not a points guy. He's never gonna get the shine of a Jamal Crawford or Eric Gordon. But he is more valuable to a team concept IMO
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Old 03-07-2018, 02:23 PM   #36
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IT has been a backup for like 3 games?

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In terms of value TJ is definitely up there. He's a multivitamin. Fills gaps where needed. Doesn't need to be a focus, just does his job. Every team needs a TJ Mac. He's not a points guy. He's never gonna get the shine of a Jamal Crawford or Eric Gordon. But he is more valuable to a team concept IMO

Good to see you come around, brother
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Old 03-07-2018, 02:37 PM   #37
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IT has been a backup for like 3 games?



Good to see you come around, brother

He shit the bed against the bucks though
That's his only issue, he can't be a play maker, especially in tight games. But his tenacity is infectious. I have no problem with saying he's the best backup PG in the NBA right now.
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Old 03-07-2018, 04:55 PM   #38
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Dante Exum will be when he returns. :)
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Old 03-07-2018, 05:18 PM   #39
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Satoransky
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Old 03-07-2018, 05:59 PM   #40
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In no order

Shabbaz Napier
Marcus Smart
Fred VanVleet
Patty Mills
Terry Rozier
Tomas Satoransky
Tyler Johnson when he’s not starting at the 2
Tyus Jones


If you count Lou Williams and/or Eric Gordon, then obviously both of them as well.
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Old 03-07-2018, 06:01 PM   #41
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In no order

Shabbaz Napier
Marcus Smart
Fred VanVleet
Patty Mills
Terry Rozier
Tomas Satoransky
Tyler Johnson when heís not starting at the 2
Tyus Jones


If you count Lou Williams and/or Eric Gordon, then obviously both of them as well.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:25 PM   #42
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McConnell isnít a good player, chill out with this dumb shtick. Nice defender but ass cheeks offensively
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:35 PM   #43
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It's Fred VanVleet. He is already better than Kyle Lowry. Once he takes over the starting job, the league better watch out.

TJ McConnell? You people are so stupid.
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:37 PM   #44
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McConnell isnít a good player, chill out with this dumb shtick. Nice defender but ass cheeks offensively
Stop being a dipshit. Keep it to yoursslf if you have no idea what you're talking about
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Old 03-07-2018, 09:40 PM   #45
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It's Fred VanVleet. He is already better than Kyle Lowry. Once he takes over the starting job, the league better watch out.

TJ McConnell? You people are so stupid.
You clearly don't watch Sixers games. Dude put the locks on Kemba, DeRozan, Curry, Harden, etc.

He doesn't care about stats, just winning. Probably drained more gamewinners than every other player mentiones combined.
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