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Old 09-11-2018, 12:16 AM   #766
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https://thejnotes.com/2018/09/10/uta...-stay-healthy/

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Gobert was held out of 26 games due to a pair of knee injuries, and while he was off the floor Utah was nothing short of a disaster. While Rodney Hood was a member of the Jazz, he once again missed some significant time, as did Joe Johnson. And of course Dante Exum was out for all but 14 regular season contests.

Probably miss the playoffs if those guys are healthy!
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Old 09-11-2018, 11:48 PM   #767
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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/9/9/178...to-notice-this

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If it's the case that Alec Burks is in Quin Snyder's doghouse because he won't make the effort necessary to improve his defense the way Snyder wants him to, and that Burks wants a payday next season, it's questionable, given the salary cap issues throughout the league, that he'll do any better than Hood did.

Yeah it's better to have guys on the floor that suck at offense!

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The question needs to be asked - will Burks be waiting for Dennis Lindsey to make him a QO at the end of the season, or somebody else? If Dante Exum, Royce O'Neale, and Ricky Rubio all play well this season (we'll stipulate that Donovan Mitchell will play very well), it's questionable whether Burks would even be playing much this season, given that in order to be traded, he needs to play, and if he doesn't play defense to Snyder's specifications, he won't - unless Snyder shows off Burks to gin up a market for him (while managing to minimize the effect of his lack of defense).

There's been interest in him. He can be traded. He better be bought out if he's not. He's too good to be sitting behind inferior players

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Poll question - and I have no idea what will happen, but I'd like to see Burks stay with the Jazz and get a contract for more than the QO...whad'ya think?

I hope he's traded as soon as possible. He doesn't deserve this. Either does Neto or Udoh
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Old 09-12-2018, 12:41 PM   #768
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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat...ans-in-the-nba

The most bias and delusional anyway
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Old 09-12-2018, 12:48 PM   #769
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https://thejnotes.com/2018/09/11/whi...rs-in-2018-19/

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Ask many a Jazz fan, and they’ll tell you the same thing. Rudy Gobert has been snubbed from the All-Star Game two years in a row. While fans were happy at the time to see Gordon Hayward qualify for the 2017 All-Star Game, many felt that Gobert’s impact on the team made him more deserving of a spot than the former Jazz star.

While your cohort Ryan had him behind Hayward, Hood and Favors in the Jazz big 3!

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But as long as Gobert remains healthy in 2018-19 and the Utah Jazz reach the heights that they’re predicted to this upcoming year, it’s going to be nigh impossible to leave him out. His defensive prowess in a mere 56 games last season was enough to earn him Defensive Player of the Year. If he can come closer to playing 80 or more games, something he’s done twice in his five-year career, that season-long impact simply won’t be able to be ignored.

Cousins likely won't make it either

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Of all the players on this list, past and present, make no mistake about it, if Gordon Hayward is healthy in 2018-19, he’s a near shoo-in to be an All-Star this upcoming year.

Healthy or not he has to prove he's still the same player after missing a whole year

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Old 09-12-2018, 03:51 PM   #770
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Shams Charania: Thunder star Russell Westbrook underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right knee and will be re-evaluated in four weeks. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:52 PM   #771
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Eric Woodyard: Here is NBA Hall of Famer Jason Kidd’s thoughts on being compared to Utah Jazz guard Ricky Rubio: “He’s a guy that can find the open guy and make the game easy for his teammates.” pic.twitter.com/kETIFgEFhG – via Twitter E_Woodyard

Wasn't a Kidd fan but Rubio isn't even close. His D and passing suck despite the hype.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:42 PM   #772
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https://thejnotes.com/2018/09/12/uta...d-preseason/2/

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But honestly, preseason is exciting because it’s our first true look at the Jazz team in 5-on-5 action and it’s their first chance to showcase just how much they’ve developed during the offseason. Last year, we could clearly see that Exum was much-improved (prior to the injury) and that Mitchell had the chance to be special, even before the heightened competition of the regular season came into effect.

Exum was improved. Much improved? He still can't finish. Still can't hold on to the ball. Srill won't look at shooting a 3.
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Old 09-13-2018, 04:35 PM   #773
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...ason-kidd.html

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And that’s not being disrespectful to Rubio — as he’s coming off the best season of his career in Utah — but Kidd was really that great.

Could we stop with this narrative already? He killed them most of the year

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“Rubio can pass the ball,” Kidd said during a November trip to Salt Lake City, as former head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks.

Yeah but where the pass ends up is anyone's guess

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Through seven seasons, Rubio averages 10.8 points, 7.9 assists and 4.3 boards but has only reached the postseason once and that happened as a Jazzman this past season. However, he could continue to benefit tremendously from Utah coach Quin Snyder’s system. As a member of the Minnesota Timberwolves, Rubio never won more than 40 games in a season until the Jazz went 48-34 to finish fifth in the Western Conference.

Benefit from a system that has him spotting up in the corner?

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Like Kidd, Rubio has developed a league-wide reputation as one of the top perimeter defensive and rebounding floor generals of his era. His passing ability is also stellar. That’s why Sports Illustrated recently included Rubio in its Top 100 NBA Players listat No. 57; ahead of Timberwolves guard Jeff Teague.

and yet he's usually behind his man going for steals
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:49 PM   #774
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https://thejnotes.com/2018/09/13/uta...ac-haas-no-18/

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They’ve got an old-school vibe; a determination to overwhelm the competition with their sheer size and soul-crushing defense. In that regard, Isaac Haas — the former Purdue big man who checks in at No. 18 on our Jazz rank countdown — may be tailor-made for the team.

It's stupid to even rank those guys but I don't see how he's not 20. He doesn't sound like NBAer to me and will be Bradley's back-up with the Stars
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:05 PM   #775
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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...bad-thing.html

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General manager Dennis Lindsey & Co. may not have delivered on the hottest targets, but they brought back the logical pieces for the franchise.

And the illogical ones

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Instead of bringing in outsiders, no team chemistry was ruined as Favors (two-year, $36 million), Exum (three year, $33 million), and Neto (two-year, $4.4 million) all reached deals within 24 hours apart.

Plenty of chemistry was ruined. Exum will be on the floor instead of better players

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It’s almost time to rock and roll and the boring offseason wasn’t necessarily a bad thing in Salt Lake City.

As long as competing at the highest level isn't part of your plan I guess.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:12 PM   #776
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I tend to think Sefolosha’s late-career breakout with Utah was more a function of fit than luck. And while he’ll likely lose some minutes per game if the team stays healthy, I still imagine him at least being close to last season’s levels of efficiency.

He was platooning when he got hurt! COTY!
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Old 09-14-2018, 05:50 PM   #777
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Orazio Cauchi: Sky Sports Italy mentioning that Jazz, Hawks and Nets remain interested in Nicolň Melli and they might try to sign him next season. As reported in the past, I can confirm that both Hawks and Nets are interested in Italian forward and they already had contacts with him this summer – via Twitter paxer89
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:27 PM   #778
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https://thejnotes.com/2018/09/15/uta...west-division/

Who cares?

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Not only that, but they lost Jamal Crawford who, although he certainly is aging, was a nice veteran piece for their second unit. They’ve added some potential pieces to help the bench, but it remains to be seen whether or not they’ll actually be used effectively.

Plays no D

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Many have surmised that a lackluster offseason that saw Portland lose the likes of Shabazz Napier, Ed Davis, Pat Connaughton and Noah Vonleh may hurt the team’s overall depth and cohesion. I think there’s certainly some valid reasons to be concerned about those things.

Davis they might miss. The others?

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To me, the biggest obstacle the Jazz have to overcome is one that’s decimated them in recent seasons – injuries. Rudy Gobert’s absence was easily the largest factor in Utah’s slow start. Had he been healthy all 82 games, I’m willing to guarantee the Jazz would have finished third last year. And if Ricky Rubio had remained healthy in the playoffs, I think we would have seen just how much more evenly matched the Jazz and Rockets are and will be this season.

Would have been swept with Mr. 32% playing. Their biggest obstacle is shooting
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:31 PM   #779
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https://hoopshabit.com/2018/09/14/ut...-nba-season/2/

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3. Grayson Allen will earn a spot in the rotation

Not really that bold for a team that usually plays rookies rather they earn it or not

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1. Derrick Favors will be traded

Can only hope and that Rubio will be gone as well as Neto, Burks, Thabo and either Udoh or Bradley. Sadly they are now stuck with Exum
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:41 PM   #780
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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/9/17/17...ayer-candidate

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He had raw NBA ready skills that would be challenged on Day 1.

What skills are these? Length and speed aren't skills.

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Big talk when the Utah Jazz supposedly had that guy in Gordon Hayward.

Hayward has led them to the bottom of the NBA!

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Exum ended up starting for Utah by the end of the season and being part of a hard nosed defense that improved mightily when he and Rudy Gobert were inserted into the starting lineup. Then the offseason injury ...

As we've seen the past 4 years it's all about Rudy. Exum?

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In the 2016-2017 season, Dante Exum would need time to work himself back into game shape. He would need development time. While many hoped that this would be the year he could turn the corner, it just wasn’t in the stars. He was returning from an ACL injury and wasn’t named Russell Westbrook. His recovery was going to take time. He even struggled where he should have excelled: defense. He was confused by switches, got burned by his men, and consistently was eaten up by screens.

more excuses

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Not helping the situation was how Utah over the offseason had flipped the switch from team in rebuild to playoff contender. They had acquired George Hill, Boris Diaw, and Joe Johnson to pour gasoline on their improvement fire. While this wasn’t necessarily in the best interest long term of developing their young talent like Rodney Hood and Exum, it was in the best interest of the franchise’s future at the time: Gordon Hayward. The Utah Jazz had pushed all their chips to the center of the table that season in the hopes that they could make a playoff run and prove to Hayward that they were heading in the right direction for years to come.

Ridiculous that this didn't happen a year earlier after they finished the year 6th best!

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Rodney Hood was being anointed the Jazz’s soon to be leading scorer.

The fact that anyone thought he was that guy makes it real difficult to get behind the coach and front office of this team.

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Dante Exum looked polished. He stood out on the hardwood more than Donovan Mitchell and Jaylen Brown. He was a man amongst boys. It finally appeared that 2017-2018 would be the season of Dante Exum. Jazz fans had waited long enough for the 5th pick of the 2014 NBA Draft to take the next step. They were witnessing those steps in summer league.



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Dante Exum put on a show against his home country’s NBL squad the Sydney Kings. He looked dominant.

He looked improved. Dominant?

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Dennis Lindsey would refer to Exum’s time missed during the 2017-2018 season as detrimental as Rudy Gobert’s missed time. That’s a helluva statement when one considers that the Utah Jazz would go on to finish the season 29-6 once Rudy Gobert returned from injury.

It's a ridiculous statement but what else would you expect from the guy that gave him 33 million based on nothing but hope

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Curiously, one has to wonder what Dennis Lindsey was seeing in those practices, scrimmages, and offseason workouts before Exum was hurt to make such a grand statement.

All I see is a guy that's still hoping his horrible pick eventually becomes something. Good front offices cut their losses

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When Dante Exum returned from injury with only a few games left in the regular season—earlier than expected—he didn’t appear to be the Dante Exum seen in Summer League and preseason. The player whose career had been milestoned not by great games but by flashes of potential seemed to be on the verge of a breakthrough. But here Exum was, back and supposedly FINALLY healthy, and struggling. Exum had one special game in which he scored 20+ points, but beyond that, it was more of the same from Dante. A young player grasping to get back to game shape while showing a flash here or there to keep you hanging on.

That was the best we have ever seen Dante and he still couldn't shoot, finish or hold on to the ball. In the playoffs he was back to his putrid self

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With Ricky Rubio hurt, Donovan Mitchell having to play substitute starting point guard, and Royce O’Neale subbing in for Spida-Man at shooting guard, Dante Exum was thrust into big minutes in the playoff rotation not as a result of merit, but desperation. It was here on the NBA’s biggest stage against the NBA’s top seeded team that Dante Exum seemed to finally arrive.

He wouldn't even look at the hoop when left all alone on the perimeter.

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Exum was supposed to be the weak link for Utah, and he ended up being the strongest part of the damn chain.



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Dante Exum has a 3 year / $33 million dollar contract. He’s no longer given the type of leash as a rookie or young player, he’s now being paid as a veteran. While he is only been able to legally buy alcohol for a little over two years, he is going to be expected to pool his talents together so that they finally bear the resemblance of a final product. Dennis Lindsey has preached patience with Dante Exum, and here, four years later, the patience has hit the precipice.

He made a lot as the 5th pick.
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