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Old 07-08-2006, 02:40 PM   #16
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Good move by Lebron, moving on so soon would taint his image and nearly destroy the cavs, instead he's now an even richer man with plenty of opportunity to get playoff experience and MVP titles, and once this contract is up even if he hasn't won a title (don't think he will) he will still only be 27, giving him every opportunity to get it elsewhere if he wishes to do so.
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:42 PM   #17
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it's good that he signed.

i think it helps a player's legacy to have your career to be w/one team. lebron is so tied to clevland that it would have harsh if he left his contract on the table. he's starting his road on a smoother path.
It is also a good thing for the league. It would have been a bad sign if 'Bron would have refused to sign and went to free agency in 2 years or demanded a trade to New York, LA, or Chicago. Surely we don't want the NBA's star players heading for the biggest cities anytime they get the chance, like they do with baseball. Do we want shoe companies to be able to control the best athletes?

This sends a message to all of the other small market teams that they can get and keep star players.
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:55 PM   #18
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LeBron: "I look forward to working toward bringing a championship to our great fans and the city of Cleveland."

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Old 07-08-2006, 03:10 PM   #19
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Good move for the Cavs. Nor Bron. Cavs aren't winning a championship with their current roster. They might lose Gooden. That'll make it worse. If they do make changes, the East has been improving, so that they will have to go through 3-4 good/very good teams in order to make the Finals.
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Old 07-08-2006, 04:06 PM   #20
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LeBron is 21, right? Six more years & he'll be 27... about to enter his ''prime'' years. If he doesn't win a ring there in Cleveland before his current extension is up, you can bet your family that he's out of there & moving on to a better position to get a ring.

And to be honest, I don't think he even gets a finals appearance with that Cleveland squad he has.

Cleveland really messed up paying Larry all that money. It just wasn't a good fit for LeBron & the Cavs at that point. Now they don't have the cap room in the near future to add upon what they have already.

If Oden turns out to be the real deal, look for LeBron to go there. Dwights' team is another possibility.
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:00 PM   #21
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The Cavs messed up in signing Z to such a ridiculous contract. LH is not the problem. The guy missed the majority of the season and then had his brother die in middle of the playoffs. I'm willing to cut him some slack. Remember... the Cavs were 18-10 and playing their best basketball of the season before LH had the surgery. I still believe that, with a PG with range, LH could be an asset to this team.

Z is the problem. 4 years, 55 million? That is way too much for a guy that doesn't fit the team at all.

On the bright side, the Cavs had a great draft, imo. Both Brown and Gibson could be future starters and they fit Bron's style very well. Saying that the Cavs aren't going to come close to a title in the next 6 years based on their current roster doesn't make much sense. That is a LONG time and A LOT of things can happen. Besides, it isn't as though the Cavs are horrible. They did win 50 games and took the Pistons to 7 games (almost beat them in Game 6). They really aren't THAT far off.

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Old 07-08-2006, 05:07 PM   #22
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I'm willing to cut him some slack.
You may find yourself doing that often, if his history is any indication of what his future will become.
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:27 PM   #23
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This is a good move by LeBron. I'm happy to see he's staying with Cleveland despite their market share. He wants to bring the city of Cleveland a championship, and he's got a shot just like many other superstars in the league, but the real question is, can he accomplish this within his 5 year deal?

Cleveland's roster now is far from championship material. They have some work to do. As great as LeBron is, the King will never be crowned unless his kingdom (Cleveland) recruits some better horsemen. Jordan didn't win a title until he was what, 27? LeBron's contact will end when he's 26, so if Cleveland doesn't make some moves to win a title, I doubt he's sign yet another extension.

Good call LeBron...

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Old 07-08-2006, 06:05 PM   #24
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They might lose Gooden. That'll make it worse.
Gooden is vastly overrated. It is no coincidence that he has played on 3 teams in his 5 years. The guy has no consistency. I feel more comfortable with Varejao on the floor than I do with Gooden. Atleast I know that Anderson is going to hustle and go 100% at all times. Gooden falls asleep during the course of most games.

I'm hoping they sign & trade Gooden... Hopefully for a PG who has atleast a little range and can run the floor.
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:31 PM   #25
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Good for cleveland. Lebron could be lebron anywhere he plays. But clevland was dead in basketball before Lebron James got there. And they'd have been dead had he left. And now they don't have to worry about being insignificant again.

Now they can build around James and compete for a title in next 3-4 years and lebron can keep on improving without taking too much heat. Its a win-win.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:04 PM   #26
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Good for Cleaveland... They keep their star and their franchise... Things are looking up for them... As for Lebron... well... not so good. The contracts his teammates have are going to prevent the Cavs from building a good team around him... and there's going to be a lot of wasted time maneuvering personel while Detroit, Miami and the Bulls battle for eastern conference supremacy and Orlando and Charlotte surpass the Cavs...
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:06 PM   #27
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Clevelend needs to trade Ilgauskas for young talent and expiring contracts, as long as the young talent fits Bron better than Big Z. Their goal should not be to win now, but to win in 3 to 4 years. And a team that features Hughes and Big Z as the secondary stars ain't gonna win a championship, so they should look to trade tham as soon as possible and try to acquire talent and develop it. With Bron they have a huge window, he alone guarantees more than a decade in the playoffs.

Another thing is, having Ilgauskas on the team may make them win 50+ games, but they won't stand a chance against WC teams. So they'd be better of getting 7th or 8th seeds, or even being in the lottery to get good draftpicks, increasing the chance for Bron to get his Pippen
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:17 PM   #28
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The reason its good for Lebron is he's building his legacy. Yeah he could go play in a big market team or be part of a championship team already with some star players. But in Cleveland, they've been building from scratch and he's gonna be looked upon as the main wheel driving that wagon from the start, when they do win it all.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:22 PM   #29
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The reason its good for Lebron is he's building his legacy. Yeah he could go play in a big market team or be part of a championship team already with some star players. But in Cleveland, they've been building from scratch and he's gonna be looked upon as the main wheel driving that wagon from the start, when they do win it all.
Not to mention that he is from Akron and that he is playing for one of the most tortured cities in American sport. If LeBron could be the guy who takes the Cavs and the city of Cleveland to the promised land and makes people forget all of the terrible things that have happened in Cleveland since Jim Brown in the early 60s, it would be one of the great feats in sporting history.
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:02 PM   #30
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when he knew there was no way for the Knicks to be under the cap for him he decided on staying put. blame Isiah.

actually, i bet he didnt want to be know as the player that killed a franchise.


Well, Isiah can be blamed for a lot of stuff...But that jacked up cap space was there before he even got the job.....
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