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Old 07-06-2018, 03:32 PM   #16
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WHY is our government meddling so heavily in the FREE market fellas? Arent you guys supposed to hate that big gubmint stuff?
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:37 PM   #17
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gyna goin right for the heart of maga country.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese...der-1530869400


ruthless.



the funny thing is they would never admit defeat ...their quality of life could get cut in half right under trumps policies and theyd just blame it on immigrants or black people or something.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:39 PM   #18
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While I understand the tariffs against China (still think this isn't the best way to go about it and ultimately counterproductive), it's the tariffs against our allies that I don't understand. Trade wars are just dumb and hardly ever produce a clear winner.

Trump trying to purposefully wreck the economy or what?
Trying to bully the market thinking everyone will fold, incredibly arrogant and stupid.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:49 PM   #19
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Let the unemployment and recession begin.
Red States will be hit the hardest.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:14 PM   #20
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While I understand the tariffs against China (still think this isn't the best way to go about it and ultimately counterproductive), it's the tariffs against our allies that I don't understand. Trade wars are just dumb and hardly ever produce a clear winner.

Trump trying to purposefully wreck the economy or what?

You think this guy's family would work when he can get welfare?
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:19 PM   #21
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Let the unemployment and recession begin.
Red States will be hit the hardest.
Unfortunately if this does hurt the economy the effects will hit Trump supporters and opponents alike. Recessions don't discriminate.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:46 PM   #22
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they got the cheese industry

https://www.wsj.com/articles/take-ou...ffs-1530783005

and after a brief calm after the initial soy attack, farmers are feeling the effects

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/eco...-trade-n889346

by coincidence, since the us/gyna tiff over soy/sorghum, gyna's purchases of russian soy/sorghum have tripled, setting new records. gyna-russia trade in general has exploded since the early part of '18.

but again, that's just coincidence.
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Old 07-06-2018, 04:57 PM   #23
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You think this guy's family would work when he can get welfare?
I know you ain't talking about me...never been on welfare and I don't even live in the US anymore.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:30 PM   #24
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they got the cheese industry

https://www.wsj.com/articles/take-ou...ffs-1530783005

and after a brief calm after the initial soy attack, farmers are feeling the effects

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/eco...-trade-n889346

by coincidence, since the us/gyna tiff over soy/sorghum, gyna's purchases of russian soy/sorghum have tripled, setting new records. gyna-russia trade in general has exploded since the early part of '18.

but again, that's just coincidence.

So... so... it's just a nuthingburger, nuthin to see here. F*ckin libtard. Trump has you snowflakes fuming.
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:08 PM   #25
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So... so... it's just a nuthingburger, nuthin to see here. F*ckin libtard. Trump has you snowflakes fuming.

by coincidence again, everywhere that the us is retreating in the world. gyna and russia seem to be filling the void, or at least trying. just the last few days...

http://www.newsweek.com/us-iran-deal...s-back-1011890

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1JT1KT

i mean i don't wanna hit the music just yet but... f*** imma do it anyway.

hit the music

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Old 07-06-2018, 06:17 PM   #26
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Truth be told, America would survived without shit coming from China. We can live without more than people think.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:38 PM   #27
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Truth be told, America would survived without shit coming from China. We can live without more than people think.
At what cost?

Andy what will happen afterward?

How long until other countries join Canada, Mexico and China?

What happens when others depend on the US less and less?

We will survive but at what cost?
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:07 PM   #28
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Midwest Mayors Say Soybean Tariffs Threaten Cities

Leaders see a ripple effect on communities that rely on the commodity as the trade spat hurts farmers.

Mayors in the Midwest’s soybean belt said Friday that retaliatory tariffs by China threaten cities that rely heavily on the commodity, and they urged the Trump administration to reconsider trade policies they said are already hurting their communities.

China put tariffs on $34 billion worth of U.S. goods, in response to tariffs by the U.S. that took effect just after midnight Eastern time on Friday. Soybeans are the top export targeted by Beijing’s tariffs, with about $14 billion of U.S. soybeans shipped to China last year.

The administration is arguing that it needs to confront China over trade practices that have led to huge U.S. trade deficits and illicit transfer of U.S. technology to Chinese firms. Officials say they are readying programs to help farmers hurt in the trade fight and will tap Depression-era farm subsidy programs.

The brewing trade spat is boosting overseas shipments of U.S. soybeans, but U.S. farmers have been selling below cost as traffic shifts toward Brazil.

All of this has mayors along the Mississippi River raising alarms about an expected hit to the region’s farmers and the ripple effect to cities that depend on jobs and revenue from farm-equipment manufacturers, grain marketers and transportation companies.

“This is not an urban-rural issue, this impacts all of us,” said Frank Klipsch, the mayor of Davenport, Iowa. The city, with a population of about 100,000, is across the Mississippi from the headquarters of farm-equipment giant Deere & Co., in Moline, Ill.

Mr. Klipsch said mayors in the Midwest have already been struggling with problems like flooding and extreme heat, as the anxiety over China’s 25% tax on soybeans sets in. He said many mayors had thought the trade spat would be resolved and tariffs avoided.

The top three soybean-producing states are Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota. Roughly 17 million tons of soybeans, or 30% of U.S. production, were exported to China last year.

On a conference call with reporters Friday, several mayors said they hoped to talk to the White House to understand the goals behind its trade policy and make sure the Trump administration is aware of the risks to Midwest communities affected by the soybean tariffs.

“People’s livelihoods are on the line here,” said Jay Hollowell, mayor of Helena-West Helena, Ark. “Can we have a conversation with the White House or the U.S. Trade Representative on where all this is going?”

Several mayors said it was hard to quantify the impact to their cities so far and that they were lobbying congressional lawmakers.

Mayor Rick Eberlin, of Grafton, Ill., said he has spoken to farmers who said they don’t expect to have the money this year to visit his city, a riverside town with river cruises, water parks and wineries. He said he has two brothers who are farmers and are worried because soybean prices had already been driven lower on trade fears before the tariffs took effect.

“We rely heavily on the tourism dollar,” Mr. Eberlin said. “The less money you have, the less you can do. That has a tremendous impact on Grafton.”

John Heisdorffer, a soybean grower in Keota, Iowa, and chairman of the American Soybean Association, said it took the industry 40 years to develop its soybean market in China. He said he worries that even if U.S. growers only lose 10% of business, they may never be able to recover it.

“These mayors have a right to be concerned,” he said. “If we don’t make money in the farms in the Midwest, it will be a trickle-down effect and make it to the cities.”

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Old 07-06-2018, 09:11 PM   #29
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meanwhile, in mother russia...

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China Buys Record Amount of Russian Soy as It Shuns U.S. Growers

Purchases almost tripled so far this season amid trade spat
Russia far east planting may rise in 2 to 3 years: Ikar

China, the world’s biggest soybean importer, almost tripled purchases from Russia amid a trade dispute with the U.S., the biggest producer.

Russia sold about 850,000 metric tons of soybeans to China from the start of the 12-month season in July through mid-May, according to Russia’s agriculture agency Rosselkhoznadzor. That’s more than during any season before and compares with about 340,000 tons sold during all of the previous period, Chinese customs data show.



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