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Old 09-09-2018, 03:33 PM   #1
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Default Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Worthy the teams primary scorer was pretty much playing hobbled the entire series due to his injury against Portland and despite that pretty much every game was a nailbiter except game 2.

I find it hard to believe that the Bulls would have won against a healthy Lakers team
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:19 PM   #2
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

As a Laker fan... yeah. Most probably. Jordan and Pippen were something else that series.

Questions like this have no clear answer though. It happened the way it happened and that's all there is to it. Alternative reality may exist in a multiverse.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:48 PM   #3
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Michael Jordan was too dominant and determined.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Given that the Lakers' 2nd loss came in OT and their 4th one, with both Worthy and Scott absent and the Lakers using a rotation of just 7 players (mostly inexperienced), still only came in the last minutes, I say that the Lakers at least put on a much better fight. 7 games not out of question.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:04 PM   #5
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

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Michael Jordan was too dominant and determined.

Yeah...because he did it all alone. Pippen averaged 20.8ppg 9.4 rpg 6.6apg while being the best defensive player on the court in that series.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:22 PM   #6
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

uh yes, Bulls were that much better a team. Worthy was as you said wobbled already and Scott was useless
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:26 PM   #7
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Better question is do the Blazers beat the Bulls had they made the finals? That Blazers team peaked in '91, and the Bulls hadn't peaked yet. I think they would have had a better chance than they had in '92, anyway.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:50 PM   #8
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Peak 80's Lakers and early 90's Bulls would have been a Finals for the ages.

But as it was, it was my opinion at that time that the 91 Lakers fully healthy would have made it interesting, but barring a miracle, the Bulls still win. Byron Scott and Magic were definitely showing signs of aging and didn't have the speed of play that they once had. Vlade was only in his second year, and the Lakers didn't have the all-around game anymore.

As it was, it turned out to be a mere formality for the Bulls to finally wrap it up. They were hungry, and it was their turn to feed.
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Old 09-09-2018, 08:56 PM   #9
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

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Yeah...because he did it all alone. Pippen averaged 20.8ppg 9.4 rpg 6.6apg while being the best defensive player on the court in that series.

Did I say anything negative about Pippen? Even more reason why the Bulls would still win. The OP is trying to discredit MJ, even though he's not old enough to have seen Lebron's whole career. I'm letting him know that Jordan was too dominant.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:03 PM   #10
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Gonna have to take the L on this thread or active the alt brigade. Your pick.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:51 PM   #11
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

The facts are that Worthy played 41 mpg and led the Lakers with 19 ppg on 48% - same as regular season..

So if he was "hobbled", he still played pippen to a stand-still in the scoring column (his job on that laker team) and only missed game 5 when the series was over already.. so if he was "hobbled" but still got his regular numbers, then I guess a healthy worthy destroys pippen..

So worthy wasn't that hobbled - it was one of the narratives used to sheild media-darling magic from the embarrassment

Otoh, scott was hobbled.. but I don't think he alone changes the outcome

Plus, OP is forgetting that vlade and perkins stepped up big time above their regular numbers - they both averaged 17/9 in those Finals..

They were highly-skilled bigs that could do a little of everything - this demonstrated the Lakers depth and talent edge - the bulls had no one of that quality and sophistication after mj/pip, whereas perkins/vlade were 4th and 5th options after magic/worthy/scott.. the Lakers also had 1990 all-star ac green and young stud elden campbell as quality guys deep in their rotation

The real question is what if MJ misses that shot to force overtime in game 3? The Lakers would be up 2-1 with 2 more games at home - they'd also have the Lakers mystique and bulls losing history as the general vibe going forward in that series.. it would've been interesting to see the Lakers heading into game 4 with all the confidence of 5-time champs, while the bulls battled negative feelings as Finals newbies and a history of coming up short to the pistons

Of course, one could play these games with any series - i.e. what if pippen gets his normal numbers on game 7 of the1990 ecf, instead of a legendary choke job (2 pts, 1-10)?? The bulls probably play a lot better and go to the Finals where they beat the blazers (based on the blazers losing to the pistons in 5 easy games, while the bulls basically beat the pistons if not for Pip's choke)
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Old 09-10-2018, 04:12 AM   #12
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

It might have gone to 6 but thats all. Jordan/Pippen duo was too hard to match, they just dominated the perimeter and Grant and Cartwright where to solid aswell. Jordan was on a mission for his first ring. He was simply too much for anyone at that time.

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Old 09-10-2018, 07:47 AM   #13
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy



Has a thread so overwhelmingly backfired before in the history of ISH? Though the poll results thus far don't reflect the sentiments expressed in the thread, which are overwhelmingly one-sided, but whatever. We just need two more threads from you OP and the circle will be complete:

1) Was Charles Barkley fat in 1993?
2) How good would 'baby' Shaq(circa 96) be today?

Oh hell, give us a 'If Horace Grant was healthy, does the Bulls still beat the Magic in 96?'

Good luck.
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Old 09-10-2018, 06:37 PM   #14
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

Worthy averaged 19+ ppg that series and 21 for the postseason, so he wasn't that far off his usual level of play. To think that he was going to match or exceed his usual production against a great defensive team with great defensive personnel like the Bulls is silly. Even if he was 100% he would't have done much better than what he did.

The same goes for Scott, though he likely would have averaged in the 7-9 ppg range instead of 5 ppg. Also, if we're playing the "what if?" game, what if Jordan wasn't hobbled by tendinitis in his knee and a recurrent ankle sprain that postseason/Finals? Does he average 36/8/12?

Fact is, anyone who watched that series knows that the Bulls were a team of destiny. Too young, too hungry, and led by a transcendental player at his apex. They were not going to lose that series. Everyone healthy, the series MAYBE goes 6 games. I see almost no chance of 7.
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:57 PM   #15
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Default Re: Do the Bulls still beat the Lakers if Scott and Worthy were healthy

At this point Scottie was a more dynamic and impactful player than Worthy, healthy or otherwise. I remember a particular game( think I even recorded it back in the day) when MJ and Scottie went off against the Sixers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw89U6saQeY

That duo was flat-out dynamic throughout that playoff run.
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