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Old 09-12-2018, 03:35 PM   #1
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Exclamation LeBron has 2600 more assists than Jordan through the same amount of years

but Jordan was an elite passer? more myths just like his 3 point shot not being good only because he didn't focus on it.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:38 PM   #2
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Default Re: LeBron has 2600 more assists than Jordan through the same amount of years

LeBron-Ball > Jordan-Ball confirmed
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:39 PM   #3
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Default Re: LeBron has 2600 more assists than Jordan through the same amount of years

One cares about BEING the system and needing every single offensive possession to run through him to maximize stats at the detriment of the team while forcing everyone to adapt to his high maintenance playstyle while not adapting to anyone around him and is 1*/9 because of it.

One cared about winning at all costs and allowing his teammates' to flourish by adapting to each player's individual strengths by playing within a system and not holding the offense hostage in order to statpad and is 6/6 because of it and even 30 years after his prime is recognized as the GOAT by his peers.

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Old 09-12-2018, 03:40 PM   #4
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Default Re: LeBron has 2600 more assists than Jordan through the same amount of years

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One cares about BEING the system and needing every single offensive possession to run through him to maximize stats at the detriment of the team while forcing everyone to adapt to his high maintenance playstyle while not adapting to anyone around him and is 1*/9 because of it.

One cared about winning at all costs and allowing his teammates' to flourish by adapting to each player's individual strengths by playing within a system and not holding the offense hostage in order to statpad and is 6/6 because of it and even 30 years after his prime is recognized as the GOAT by his peers.

#LeGOAT!!
Only LeBron ball was capable of beating a 73 win team. In fact only LeBron ball has done that
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:43 PM   #5
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but Jordan was an elite passer? more myths just like his 3 point shot not being good only because he didn't focus on it.
you got so triggered from the other thread that you had to make a thread about it. Talk about a melt


















































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Old 09-12-2018, 03:43 PM   #6
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Only LeBron ball was capable of beating a 73 win team. In fact only LeBron ball has done that

Only Bran in history has had the finals help of 1b averaging 28ppg on 48% and the title winning shot in game 7 of the NBA finals
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Jordan didnt hijack the offense.
He played within an actual system.
Its called the triangle offense, look it up.

Jordan would have avgd 10+ assists with LeBron ball.
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:44 PM   #8
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Only LeBron ball was capable of beating a 73 win team. In fact only LeBron ball has done that
if only Jordan called and begged the commissioner for players to be susspended
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Jordan didnt hijack the offense.
He played within an actual system.
Its called the triangle offense, look it up.

Jordan would have avgd 10+ assists with LeBron ball.


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Jordan ball resulted in a 1-9. #facts
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Old 09-12-2018, 03:46 PM   #11
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Only Bran in history has had the finals help of 1b averaging 28ppg on 48% and the title winning shot in game 7 of the NBA finals
That's because LeBron ELEVATES his teammates
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That's because LeBron ELEVATES his teammates

Only 3 point shooting roleplayers count as his teammates?
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Old 09-12-2018, 04:07 PM   #13
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That's because LeBron ELEVATES his teammates

What does Bran (who gets shut down by single coverage) have to do with one of the best isolation scorers of this era in Kyrie getting his?
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Old 09-12-2018, 04:23 PM   #14
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So we are using empty stats and the fact he surrounds himself with spot up shooters to bail him out as something that means something?

Cool
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Old 09-12-2018, 04:26 PM   #15
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Lebron Ball > Kidd Ball

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For all of Kidd's perceived ability to "control an offense, dictate pace and put players in scoring position", it didn't translate to winning that side of the floor:

2001/02 Nets - 17th ranked offfense (Kidd averaged 37 minutes)
2002/03 Nets - 18th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 37 minutes)
2003/04 Nets - 25th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)
2004/05 Nets - 26th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)
2005/06 Nets - 25th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 37 minutes)
2006/07 Nets - 16th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)
2007/08 Nets - 25th ranked offense (Kidd averaged 36 minutes)

The Nets were ranked average to bottom of the league on offense, not just once or twice, but for every season that Kidd led their offense, and if it wasn't for their great defensive play in the early '00s, they would've been a footnote in the East during arguably its weakest period of the modern era. This is a problem a lot of folks have when discussing his skillset (and pass-first PGs alike) and what impact he had despite not being able to score on a high volumne nor efficiently (and not being a threat to do so), they tend to overcompensate by inflating his strengths to make up for his lack of scoring ability. For all thought of how great he was at controlling the offense and putting players into scoring position, he really wasn't. He was great at running the break, which is where a lot of the perception of his playmaking stems from, but once in the halfcourt and the defense was set, he wasn't. Since he struggled to score in the halfcourt, and because he wasn't a threat to score in the halfcourt, it affected the fludiity and consistenscy of the offense.
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For all of LeBron's tendencies that may or may not hinder his team's offense, they pale in comparison to Kidd's. Those first-stint Cleveland offenses were more successful than those Nets squad, where LeBron was only just coming into his own as a floor general:

'08/'09 Cavs offense ranked 4th - with a primary lineup of Mo, West, Wallace and Ilgauskas
'09/'10 Cavs offense ranked 6th - with a primary lineup Mo, Parker, Hickson and Shaq

None of those players were stars, and very few of them had any notable offensive ability, yet because of LeBron's playmaking, scoring, ability to control the tempo, put players in scoring position, and overall offensive presence, they managed to perform to a standard that matched some of the best offenses in the league.
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