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Old 07-12-2006, 02:52 PM   #181
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Would you still go off on him even though it's the National Basketball Association Finals??? Just wondering.

Postseason, nba finals, Game 7 I can hold off my emotion. Regular season? I'd tee off on dude and take some games. But in the NBA finals? I can hold that off...but what I would do is probably pull a Ron Artest and block the team bus and make dude come out.
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Old 07-12-2006, 02:52 PM   #182
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I agree with GOBB and Rasheed as well. The fact remains that if it was a racial slur, Zidane has been going through that for his entire career, which has been quite lengthy. It doesn't make any sense for him to just lose it on the biggest stage becasue it happened again.

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Old 07-12-2006, 02:53 PM   #183
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I didnt see Rasheed reply. I pretty much agree with his post.
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Old 07-12-2006, 03:41 PM   #185
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Zidane contrite for headbutt, cites insults of family
Posted: Wednesday July 12, 2006 2:08PM; Updated: Wednesday July 12, 2006 2:55PM

Zinedine Zidane appeared on French TV and apologized for the headbutt on Italy's Marco Materazzi that saw him red-carded.



PARIS (AP) -- French soccer star Zinedine Zidane apologized for head-butting an Italian opponent during the World Cup final, saying Wednesday that he was provoked by harsh insults about his mother and sister.

"I apologize, to all the children" who watched the match Sunday, Zidane said in his first, highly-awaited comments about the brutal act of violence that marked the end of his career.

The 34-year-old midfielder, soft-spoken and relaxed in the interview with Canal-Plus, did not specify exactly what Italian defender Marco Materazzi said that enraged him, but he said it was about his family.

"I would rather have taken a punch in the jaw than have heard that," Zidane said, stressing that Materazzi's language was "very harsh," and that he repeated the insults several times.

Zidane and Materazzi exchanged words after Italy broke up a French attack in extra-time. Seconds later, Zidane lowered his head and rammed Materazzi in the chest, knocking him to the ground. Zidane was sent off, reducing France to 10 men. Italy went on to win in a penalty shootout.

The abrupt act of aggression marred the end of the World Cup, with many warning it would tarnish Zidane's formidable legacy.

The France captain said, however, that he felt no regret for his act, "because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that."

"There was a serious provocation," said Zidane, who said he had never had tensions with Materazzi before.

"My act is not forgivable," Zidane said. "But they must also punish the true guilty party, and the guilty party is the one who provokes."

"I tell myself that if things happened this way, it's because somewhere up there it was decided that way," he said in a later interview on TF1 television. "And I don't regret anything that happened, I accept it."

For days, sports fans around the world have been riveted by the question: What could Materazzi have said to set Zidane off? Media from Brazil to Britain hired lip readers to try to figure it out, then came up with different answers.

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics. At nearly the same moment Zidane was on TV, excerpts from an interview that Materazzi gave were posted on an Italian paper's Web site. He denied insulting Zidane's mother.

"I didn't say anything to him about racism, religion or politics," Materazzi told the Gazzetta dello Sport. "I didn't talk about his mother either. I lost my mother when I was 15 and even now I still get emotional talking about her."

Zidane "has always been my hero," Materazzi said. "I admire him a lot."

Despite the head-butt, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball award for best player at the World Cup -- though FIFA president Sepp Blatter has suggested Zidane could be stripped of the honor.

"The winner of the award is not decided by FIFA, but by an international commission of journalists," Blatter said in Italian newspaper La Repubblica. "That said, FIFA's executive committee has the right, and the duty, to intervene when faced with behavior contrary to the ethics of the sport."

In France, many have already pardoned Zidane, even without his explanation. A poll published Tuesday in Le Parisien newspaper showed that 61 percent of the 802 people questioned forgave Zidane.

Zidane said many people have asked him not to retire, but he said he would not change his mind.

"I won't go back on it, at least I hope so ... (the decision) it's definitive," he said.

In a later interview with TF1 television, Zidane said he was "going to rest, and then move on to something else."


Sounds like he'll consider playing another game for France, to go out on a better note. ("at least I hope so" is akin to MJ's 99.9% certainty of remaining retired)
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Old 07-12-2006, 04:36 PM   #186
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every sports player should keep in mind that there is the limit of what can be said in the game. using trash talking as a way to drive the opponent crazy is ok, many players do it, but saying racist words? it is unacceptable. period. no black man can hold himself down if he is called "N", one poster's example which is very true. this also applies to zidane's case that he and his family are insulted as terrorists. it is way over the line.
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every sports player should keep in mind that there is the limit of what can be said in the game. using trash talking as a way to drive the opponent crazy is ok, many players do it, but saying racist words? it is unacceptable. period. no black man can hold himself down if he is called "N", one poster's example which is very true. this also applies to zidane's case that he and his family are insulted as terrorists. it is way over the line.

His mother and sister were insulted. What exactly was said about them? I dunno. Why assume they were called terrorists and not just called out thier names?
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His mother and sister were insulted. What exactly was said about them? I dunno. Why assume they were called terrorists and not just called out thier names?

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Old 07-12-2006, 04:53 PM   #189
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His mother and sister were insulted. What exactly was said about them? I dunno. Why assume they were called terrorists and not just called out thier names?

based on what i have heard on radio and what posters have been argueing so far.
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The France captain said, however, that he felt no regret for his act, "because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that."

Am I the only one that thinks that comment isn't that logical?

If he has no regrets for his act, then sure. But, if you don't react, that means that their right in saying it? That's kind of bad logic, imho.

In the end, here's the bottom line, IMHO:

1) Zidane was wrong in doing this. Nobody should ever react this way. Period.

2) Materazzi simply provoked Zidane into doing something that people always try to do. This time, he succeded. And thus, Materazzi accomplished his goal. Lame? Yes. Classless? IMHO, yes. But in sports, sadly, this is how it works. Materazzi is known as a dirty player. Think Bruce Bowen-esque. A guy you love on your team, hate if he isn't. That's Marco Materazzi basically.

Sadly, this is the end of Zidane. However, I doubt it will tarnish his legacy. People will remember him for the headbutt, but also people will remember his magnificent style. It's like Diego Maradona. Maradona had tons of controversy within him as well. Some people choose an event to remember. Most people will remember the "Hand of God". However, no one will deny that Zidane is one of the best players of our generation.
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:21 PM   #191
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Well, if FIFA is competant with their investigation, Materazzi's words will cost Italy. Let's see if their anti-racism talk is just that, talk.

What would be the consensus if Italy gets banned from Euro 2008 due to his talk? There are provisions in their anti-racism rules that can call for this and more.
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based on what i have heard on radio and what posters have been argueing so far.

Did Zidane and the Itailian reveal what was actually said? You cant go by what posters on here have said muchless what is being said on radio. People are making assumptions and then its being run with like a relay race.

From what we do know from Zidane is his sister and mother were the target. And as reported his mother hasnt been in good health which has affected Zidane. So any comment could have set him off.
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no one will ever know what was said, because apparantly neitehr Zidane nor Materazzi want to reveal it. So basically every argument about what was said and which implications it would have is irrelevant
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Zidane will tell Fifa what he said, however, since they are looking into taking away the Golden Ball award from him. He'll need to, since it will help him keep the award.
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PARIS (Reuters) - Zinedine Zidane said on Wednesday that Italian defender Marco Materazzi insulted his mother and his sister during the World Cup final against Italy.

The French captain reacted to the insult by head-butting Materazzi's chest in the second period of extra time of the match. He was sent off.

"He (Materazzi) pronounced very tough words about my mother and my sister. I tried not to listen to him but he kept repeating them," Zidane said in a live interview on French television channel Canal Plus.

Zidane offered an apology to all children and to all fans for his behavior but he said he did not regret it.

"This was not something to do. I want to make it clear because it was watched by two billion people and by millions of kids," Zidane said.

"I want to apologize to them but I can't regret what I did because it would mean that he (Materazzi) was right to say what he said."

Playing the last game of his career, Zinedine was shown a red card, leaving his team mates to finish the match without him. France lost on penalties.

Zidane denied Materazzi called him an Islamic "terrorist", as was reported by a Paris-based anti-racism group.

Zidane is of Algerian origin, his parents being born in the village of Aguemone in the Kabylie region.

FIFA decided on Tuesday to open a disciplinary investigation to clarify the circumstances surrounding the incident and Sepp Blatter, the chairman of the soccer's ruling body, hinted that Zidane could be stripped of the tournament's best player award.
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