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Old 07-01-2007, 06:02 PM   #31
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NO! trade deng, plug in noce and get a legit low post threat and then we'll talk.

Why would you trade Deng? Did you even see him play this season? He's going to be the best Bulls player and an all-star in this league. He'll be averaging 20+ PPG soon.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:45 PM   #32
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Why would you trade Deng? Did you even see him play this season? He's going to be the best Bulls player and an all-star in this league. He'll be averaging 20+ PPG soon.
Deng might average 18 at the highest this year. Teams will be looking at him as our no.1 weapon this year.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:45 AM   #33
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deng can't create on his own, and he never will, he has to roll off of screens, and back cuts, he hustles gets garbage points, and has a good jump shot, but he can't break his man off the dribble or create on his own. this team is not meant to have one primary scorer, we don't have one great player, but we do have a bunch of very good players. our lineup from 1-8 is SOLID, probably better than any other 8 in the league, and we are young, i think in this next year we will be one of the top two teams in the east. remember championships are not easy. 7 different teams have won it the past 25 years! name another sport where 7 different teams won a championship in the past 25 years!
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As much as I love Deng, I would agree on trading Deng, putting Noc in at the 3, sign Magloire and the Bulls be set.

PG-Hinrich
SG-Gordon
SF-Noc
PF-Magloire
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:44 PM   #35
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[quote=DwadeOverLebron]deng can't create on his own, and he never will, he has to roll off of screens, and back cuts, he hustles gets garbage points, and has a good jump shot, but he can't break his man off the dribble or create on his own./QUOTE]

Deng was in his third season last year. He has significantly improved every year hes been in the league, and last year was his coming out. Hes a very hard worker and a gym rat whos only going to improve from here on out. Guarantee his averages go up in every category next yr, including pts. And who cares if he gets garbage points at times, he still scores night in and night out. Whats this hatin on Lu?????
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:59 PM   #36
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deng can't create on his own, and he never will, he has to roll off of screens, and back cuts, he hustles gets garbage points, and has a good jump shot, but he can't break his man off the dribble or create on his own./QUOTE]

Deng was in his third season last year. He has significantly improved every year hes been in the league, and last year was his coming out. Hes a very hard worker and a gym rat whos only going to improve from here on out. Guarantee his averages go up in every category next yr, including pts. And who cares if he gets garbage points at times, he still scores night in and night out. Whats this hatin on Lu?????


theres no Luhatin going on. just makes sense that you have to give up something to get something and since noce is a solid replacement for deng why not deal deng for a very good veteran PF?

wallace- c
gasol, j. o'neal, al jefferson, s. marion/ t. thomas- pf
noce- sf
gordon- sg
hinrich- pg

THAT is a lineup!
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BullzBall-

Why do you insist Noc is a replacement for Deng? Noc is to slow to gourd the perimeter. He's also got a slow release on his shot and doesnt move well with the ball. The lakers and San Antonio would like him as a 6th man. Plus hes a sign and trade and that makes him VALUABLE for both sides of the deal.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:40 PM   #38
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Why do you insist Noc is a replacement for Deng? Noc is to slow to gourd the perimeter. He's also got a slow release on his shot and doesnt move well with the ball. The lakers and San Antonio would like him as a 6th man. Plus hes a sign and trade and that makes him VALUABLE for both sides of the deal.


i totally disagree on noc. he's not slow (deng isn't exactly lightning you know) and his release is fine. he does have to work at moving better without the ball and not just setting up for the 3 like he tended to do too much towards the end of the season. remember he's just as new to the nba as deng and is also growing as a player. just as important is that deng is by far the most valuable trade bait we have and he is our best chance to land a good PF without losing too much at sf.
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i totally disagree on noc. he's not slow (deng isn't exactly lightning you know) and his release is fine. he does have to work at moving better without the ball and not just setting up for the 3 like he tended to do too much towards the end of the season. remember he's just as new to the nba as deng and is also growing as a player. just as important is that deng is by far the most valuable trade bait we have and he is our best chance to land a good PF without losing too much at sf.
Damn, thats got to be some hella good rock you are scorin.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:42 AM   #40
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BULLZABOY what is your problem, are you just trying to get a rise out of TRUE bulls fans everywhere. Dude you like NOC way to much. I love Noc and appreciate all the hardwork,soul,and heart he gives to the city but man you gotta be realistic. DENG IS NOT TRADE BAIT!!!!! He improves every year and he being #1 weapon means nothing when u have hinrich and gordon next to you. I mean that's really not even true, gordon is truly the best offensive player, and Noc will never be as good as Deng. DENG IS 22 and NOC is 27. DENG IN HIS THREE SEASONS HAS IMPROVED in Games Played, Minutes per game, rpg, ppg, steals, fg% and ft%, LOOK IT UP IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE. That is ridiculously good. I would love to keep Noc but at the same time, if the right deal comes along, Paxson might have to make that gut wrenching decision. I would still love to see a Gordon, Noc, Duhon, and Pj Brown, possibly even Noah for Kobe, seeing as that is as much as I see Pax letting go. But seriously keeping the present roster intact doesn't bother me one bit.I will maintain that DENG and THOMAS have to be off limits in a trade, and hinrich almost as much cuz he his defensive talent balances out any of his inconsistencies on Offense. Gordon can be moved in a deal for Kobe cuz, he can't play much Defense. ALL THOSE HATING ON NOAH OR PAXSON DECISION TO DRAFT HIM CAN STOP FOR A SECOND. We weren't going to get the post presence needed at the 9th pick. He fits the bulls well, we are most likely through with sweetney,allen, and possibly Pj so WE DO NEED ANOTHER PF, even if he isn't a scorer. I hated him at Florida but i will love him as a sub, hoping that T-Time is ready to log starting PF minutes. Noah will board, run with endless energy, and i want to remind everyone that he has a NCAA tourney blocks record of 27 or 29, i dont remember. As long as everyone comes back next season hungry again to improve, which will happen cuz that is the kinda of players that build this team, we are going no less than Conf. finals, if not the big show. And i want to also add another compliment to PAX on Gray and Curry. I think Gray will make the roster because (1.) He is 7'2" (2.) He is experienced in being a 4 year college all american, (3.) He might have the best post moves of any big man on the bulls. And Curry will either somewhat replace Duhon if he is gone, and if Duhon is still around, he can def. help in the subs scoring category(instant offense). The guy is the all-time North Carolina High School points leader, and some damn good ballerz have been through that Mecca of a basketball state. It's cool with me that he used to deal a lil dope, i think i even picked up something from him once. WE will see what the the second round picks do come summer league in a week. Noah won't play cuz of that minor rotator cuff tear, but i got faith in Pax's talent evaluation, and IF ANYONE DOESN'T YOU DON'T KNOW BASKETBALL AND YOUR PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE A BULLS FAN. BULLZABOY use some common sense when you speak, and if you make more idiotic comments that we should trade Deng, cuz Noc is a replacement, please take the Bull out of your name, and spare true chicago bulls fans some embarrasment. Bulls ALL THE WAY IN 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Would you mind using paragraphs next time? That was hard to read
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Dengness- Couldnt agree more.
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BULLZABOY what is your problem, are you just trying to get a rise out of TRUE bulls fans everywhere. Dude you like NOC way to much. I love Noc and appreciate all the hardwork,soul,and heart he gives to the city but man you gotta be realistic. DENG IS NOT TRADE BAIT!!!!! He improves every year and he being #1 weapon means nothing when u have hinrich and gordon next to you. I mean that's really not even true, gordon is truly the best offensive player, and Noc will never be as good as Deng. DENG IS 22 and NOC is 27. DENG IN HIS THREE SEASONS HAS IMPROVED in Games Played, Minutes per game, rpg, ppg, steals, fg% and ft%, LOOK IT UP IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE. That is ridiculously good. I would love to keep Noc but at the same time, if the right deal comes along, Paxson might have to make that gut wrenching decision. I would still love to see a Gordon, Noc, Duhon, and Pj Brown, possibly even Noah for Kobe, seeing as that is as much as I see Pax letting go. But seriously keeping the present roster intact doesn't bother me one bit.I will maintain that DENG and THOMAS have to be off limits in a trade, and hinrich almost as much cuz he his defensive talent balances out any of his inconsistencies on Offense. Gordon can be moved in a deal for Kobe cuz, he can't play much Defense. ALL THOSE HATING ON NOAH OR PAXSON DECISION TO DRAFT HIM CAN STOP FOR A SECOND. We weren't going to get the post presence needed at the 9th pick. He fits the bulls well, we are most likely through with sweetney,allen, and possibly Pj so WE DO NEED ANOTHER PF, even if he isn't a scorer. I hated him at Florida but i will love him as a sub, hoping that T-Time is ready to log starting PF minutes. Noah will board, run with endless energy, and i want to remind everyone that he has a NCAA tourney blocks record of 27 or 29, i dont remember. As long as everyone comes back next season hungry again to improve, which will happen cuz that is the kinda of players that build this team, we are going no less than Conf. finals, if not the big show. And i want to also add another compliment to PAX on Gray and Curry. I think Gray will make the roster because (1.) He is 7'2" (2.) He is experienced in being a 4 year college all american, (3.) He might have the best post moves of any big man on the bulls. And Curry will either somewhat replace Duhon if he is gone, and if Duhon is still around, he can def. help in the subs scoring category(instant offense). The guy is the all-time North Carolina High School points leader, and some damn good ballerz have been through that Mecca of a basketball state. It's cool with me that he used to deal a lil dope, i think i even picked up something from him once. WE will see what the the second round picks do come summer league in a week. Noah won't play cuz of that minor rotator cuff tear, but i got faith in Pax's talent evaluation, and IF ANYONE DOESN'T YOU DON'T KNOW BASKETBALL AND YOUR PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE A BULLS FAN. BULLZABOY use some common sense when you speak, and if you make more idiotic comments that we should trade Deng, cuz Noc is a replacement, please take the Bull out of your name, and spare true chicago bulls fans some embarrasment. Bulls ALL THE WAY IN 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your lovefest with deng is cute. the fact remains that deng, hinrich and thomas are our only players you can get equal value for in a trade. you say deng has improved every year. well so has noc. noc is not quite as good as deng but he isn't much worse. again deng is an a- player and noc is a b+. more importantly neither has a good low post game so deal the guy who will get you the best low post player- deng. common sense says you have to give up something to get something (a very good low post presence) in this league. its funny you think the proposal to deal deng is "idiotic" dengness. what a shock. your crush on deng is a little weird.
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Talk going around about San Antonio wanting to do trade consisting of:
Nocioni to SA for NBA rights to Luis Scola to Chi. If San Antonio were to pay a part of his buy out over seas, I think Pax should HEAVILY consider it.
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Talk going around about San Antonio wanting to do trade consisting of:
Nocioni to SA for NBA rights to Luis Scola to Chi. If San Antonio were to pay a part of his buy out over seas, I think Pax should HEAVILY consider it.

Damn, if Nocioni goes to the Spurs I might have to start cheering for them.
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