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Old 07-01-2007, 07:58 PM   #31
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Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

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If Duncan breaks his hand in the season, Dirk > Duncan? NO. If you're injured, it doesn't make you WORSE.

I don't see why not. I wouldn't give an injured player the benefit of the doubt to such an extent that he would be in my top 5 right now. He has to prove that he's a top 5 player. If he's not there, too bad for him, I guess he's not eligible. You have to prove yourself every season. You can't coast off what you did the year before.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:58 PM   #32
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Duncan
Kobe
Lebron
Nash
Wade

this should be it.


You gotta have Garnett on that list somewhere. He's just too good to not have him included.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:58 PM   #33
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Wade plays with Shaq.. Wade isn't even the best player on his own team.. let alone better than Dirk..


read the text under your name. maybe then you'll get a clue.


wade > shaq and dirk right now.

whole careers shaq and dirk > wade but he's what 4 years into the league. give players time before you start comparing them to veterans.
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:59 PM   #34
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I am not talking career wise...I am talking about currently.
Well of course Dirk > Wade, right now. Wade isn't 100%.
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Kobe didn't spend last season in a wheel chair...he led a group of nobodys to the playoffs without shaq, just like lebron.
Lol. Kobe led a group of scrubs to the playoffs? Cool. Now actually get into the second round. *Crickets* Lebron? Good for him. And you keep bringing up the wheelchair issue as if it's a crime to get injured.
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Wade was in the playoffs this year because of Shaq, and we he came back he lost.
Not true. Wade did a lot before and after he was injured. Shaq just had a bigger role than he did the year before, because Wade was injured. What's so hard to understand?
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:59 PM   #35
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Duncan
Kobe
Lebron
Nash
Wade

this should be it.
Garnett > Nash & Wade
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:00 PM   #36
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You gotta have Garnett on that list somewhere. He's just too good to not have him included.



i guess.

duncan
kobe
lebron
nash/wade
garnett


im really not sure about whos better nash or wade. could someone help
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:00 PM   #37
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yes it does...being injury prone does make you less of a player....injuries have ruined many careers.
Is Wade 35? No. You can't predict his career right now.
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Wade dislocated his shoulder and has gone through knee surgury...Dirk stays healthy....in my book that is a big PLUS for Dirk.
Not a big enough plus for Dirk to be better than Wade.
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Wade plays with Shaq.. Wade isn't even the best player on his own team.. let alone better than Dirk..
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:01 PM   #38
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I am not talking career wise...I am talking about currently.

Kobe didn't spend last season in a wheel chair...he led a group of nobodys to the playoffs without shaq, just like lebron.

Wade was in the playoffs this year because of Shaq, and we he came back he lost.


Huh? Shaq played damn near half the season, how is he responisble for the Heat being in the playoffs? And Wade being injured doens't make him a bad player, he suffered a freak injury, one that he will more than likely recover from. Not to mention he was averaging crazy # prior to his injury (29/8/5, 2 stl and 1.3 bl).
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Well of course Dirk > Wade, right now. Wade isn't 100%.
ok, then why the fu-ck do you have him ranked higher?
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:02 PM   #40
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i guess.

duncan
kobe
lebron
nash/wade
garnett


im really not sure about whos better nash or wade. could someone help


Just look at the complete package. Wade--more athletic, has a ring, clutch player. Nash--also clutch, but not as clutch as Wade, team leader for Suns, great passer, better shooter. Just weight out those diff. things.
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:03 PM   #41
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He has to prove that he's a top 5 player.
I hope you're not implying he hasn't proven he's top 5 worthy.
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You have to prove yourself every season. You can't coast off what you did the year before.
Well of course right now Dirk > Wade, because Wade's injured. That's easy. But when Wade is healthy, he's the better player.
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Huh? Shaq played damn near half the season, how is he responisble for the Heat being in the playoffs? And Wade being injured doens't make him a bad player, he suffered a freak injury, one that he will more than likely recover from. Not to mention he was averaging crazy # prior to his injury (29/8/5, 2 stl and 1.3 bl).
I could be wrong but I seem to remember that the Heat had a losing record when Wade got injured....and then Shaq brought them back up.
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ok, then why the fu-ck do you have him ranked higher?
Because it was based on when he's healthy, of course.
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:04 PM   #44
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Default Re: top 5 players....is Dirk still there?

Kobe
Duncan
Wade
Lebron
Garnett
Nash
From here on out it gets confusing... Dirk isnt that great to me. He is nice offensive weapon thats about it. He has too many limitations to his game to consider him top 5.
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He has too many limitations to his game to consider him top 5.
Agreed.
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