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Old 07-04-2007, 04:00 PM   #31
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B.Wallace
P.Gasol/T.Thomas
L.Deng/A.Griffin
B.Gordon/T.Sefalosha
K.Hinrich

Thats the team...we're not counting the rookies, fillers. We're not counting the 1 or maybe 2 FA signings (1 of which could be a PG).

Bulls have lacked a serious low post offensive prescence...they get one and you're bagging the bench like its crap? Hilarious.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:00 PM   #32
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They could sign Darko and package him with others to obtain KG or Pau.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:07 PM   #33
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They could sign Darko and package him with others to obtain KG or Pau.

Thats dumb...couldnt Minny or Memphis just sign Darko outright? He is an unrestricted FA.
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Thats dumb...couldnt Minny or Memphis just sign Darko outright? He is an unrestricted FA.
How is that dumb? Packaging Nocioni + Darko + Noah & others to get Pau or KG would be the smart thing to do since the Grizz would like Nocioni, and the Bulls need a low post scorer.

Sure, Minny could sign Darko, but that wouldn't make them a good team. If they got Nocioni, Darko, and say Ben Gordon or Noah + Chris D, then that could give them a solid core of young talent that they can build on, plus they want to deal KG before he opts out and then they get nothing for him.

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Old 07-04-2007, 04:29 PM   #35
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How is that dumb? Packaging Nocioni + Darko + others to get Pau or KG would be the smart thing to do since the Grizz want Nocioni, and the Bulls need a low post scorer.
The Grizzlies can get Darko without trading for him IF they want.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:32 PM   #36
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The Grizzlies can get Darko without trading for him IF they want.

Exactly.
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The Grizzlies can get Darko without trading for him IF they want.
Did you not read that they would like Nocioni? Did you also know that they have two overpaid PF's in Swift and Cardinal? Why would they want a 3rd? The only reason to send Darko there would be to make up for the loss of Pau in the low post. If Pau isn't leaving, it would make no sense to sign him, because they don't need him with the current roster they have.
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Exactly.

It's called reading. Top to bottom, left to right: goup words together to form a sentence. Take Tylenol for any headaches, Midol for any cramps.

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Old 07-04-2007, 04:35 PM   #38
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I knew the bulls had something up their sleeve when they drafted Noah. the pick just makes no sense if someone isn't getting traded. and I gotta say... NICE. very well done Pax.

throw Darko and Pau on the Bulls and you have yourselves the best team in the East.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:51 PM   #39
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Yea sign Dako then trade him in a package to give to Minny/emphis dispite the FACT both teams can sign him outright. Mofos on here get dumber by the day. Then the genius ends his post with a commercial ad.


GeeWiz...Bulls drafted Noah because thy want Noah. Not as trade bait. Think. Bulls are losing PJ Brown...the PF position is open. You need a starter and a backup. Again i say, think.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:55 PM   #40
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You're on drugs. As mentioned the Bulls can sign a backup PG. They already have Tyrus Thomas who really showed promise in the playoffs and is gonna get MORE minutes. They have Thab who was playing good defense on D.Wade. You also have a vet in Adrian Griffin who can play some quality minutes. All Chicago needs is a 8 man rotation with a 9th as insurance. They have that...they got the bodies.

Tyrus Thomas only avg 14mpg last season.
Thab only avg 12mpg last season.

Both players should be seeing more minutes next season. Nocioni and Duhon were giving Chicago 25mpg a piece. Chicago goes out and signs 1 more player and they are BACK in business. A vet PG wont be hard to find. You're ignoring the fact you're getting Pau Gasol as your starting PF. With that you can tinker and toy with lineups all day. I'll trade Nocioni and Duhon 2 bench players for an All Star caliber PF like Gasol. Why are you even debating this?

Uh, i'm not. All I did was say the bench looked like crap. You're the one who flipped off the handle. I made a statement, not an argument. I'm fully aware they can sign another player, and I hope they do, b/c i'm a Bulls fan as well. All I said was the bench, as it would be with a Gasol trade, was crap. Which it would be. Thab playing good d on Wade for 2 games out of an 84 game season at that point doesn't change that. What else he do? Nothing. My point wasnt to show how much they'd suck with the bench. It was to show they needed to sign other players for backup. They sign more players, great. Then this 'argument' is irrelevant.
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Wont be suprised if Thabo is a better slashing Raja Bell in a year or two. Worse shot though so maybe a better scoring Trenton Hassell would be a better comparison. Good all around player. In his prime he might play 1-3 guard superstars and give maybe 12-14 ppg. Fine by me.
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They could sign Darko and package him with others to obtain KG or Pau.
i don't think you can do that there's a time limit on trading free agents after you sign them... 6months?
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Only a moron thinks the bench looks like crap when you only need 3 players off it when you add a 35-40mpg All Star caliber PF. If anything looks like crap its your replies in this thread. Shame...you think some people would have learned a thing or two. It appears not. You're not debating the bench is crap? Your replies say otherwise. Good job kid. Thab is an athletic slashing defender. For a so called Bulls fan bagging on a young player for not bringing enough to the table. I find irony up and down that comment. When you land a low post prescence like Gasol who can be moved to the Center spot when Tyrus Thomas checks in...you dont need Thab doing anything besides PLAYING PERIMETER DEFENSE and when given the oppurtunity SLASH TO THE BASKET.

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Yea sign Dako then trade him in a package to give to Minny/emphis dispite the FACT both teams can sign him outright. Mofos on here get dumber by the day. Then the genius ends his post with a commercial ad.

WTF is wrong with you, do you seriously NOT get this? DARKO IS NOT THE MAIN PART OF THE DEAL. Look at it from Minny or the Grizz perspective you freakin moron.

Grizz:

Their frontline is Swift, Cardinal, and Pau. Why on earth would they sign Darko and get another overpaid PF/C?

Now, they want Nocioni, and they will probably get Noah + Chris or more for Pau. Now, if they do that deal, and trade away Pau, they have weakened their frontline even more. The reason the Bulls would sign darko and move him would be A: to make it a more attractive deal for Memphis since they will lose Pau and will get more frontline help in Darko, and B: the Bulls might not have to give up Gordon.

So, looking at things from the Grizz perspective, would you rather have the current team + Darko, or would you rather give up Pau and get Nocioni, Darko, Noah and Duhon?

Why can't you understand that it's not just about getting Darko, it's about Darko's place in the speculative deal I thought up. Grizz don't need a PF/C unless they loose Pau in a trade. Once he's gone, they need frontline help. Darko can be that help. They don't need him right now in their current roster. You are a moron.

Now let's check out Minny's perspective. KG will opt out, so they want to move him before he does that so they can get something in return. Now, again, signing Darko will NOT make them better. But if they want to move KG, they can get a young core of players in Nocioni + Darko + Noah & Duhon or Gordon.

That gives them a young core to build on, and they don't loose KG for nothing. It's not about just adding Darko to a roster, it's about what Darko can add to make it easier for Minny or Memphis to pull the trigger once the teams lose a frontline player.

Oh, and FYI that last line of mine wasn't a commercial add moron. It's from a movie.

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How the EFF do you know that? Are you the Bull's GM? Noah is not the inside scorer they need. He's also not ready to help this team win teh east right now, and they need an established contributer like KG or Pau to get them in contention. If you would rather take Noah then Pau or KG, you are dumber than I thought.

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Jow the EFF do you know that? Are you the Bull's GM? Noah is not the inside scorer they need. He's also not ready to help this team win teh east right now, and they need an established contributer like KG or Pau to get them in contention. If you would rather take Noah then Pau or KG, you are dumber than I thought.

Your other post was a mindless rant. I didnt bother reading it. But I'll address this since you are about as bright as a cracked bulb. The only low post scorer that fit the description of a "need" was Spencer Hawes. He isnt athletic, he isnt a better rebounder nor defender as Noah is. Bulls draft guys that fit thier scheme. They dont draft guys because its trade bait for these fictional trade scenerios created by you, fans or some sportswriter who just assumes "This would be a good deal to offer". Joakim Noah believe it or not had impressive workouts. He doesnt have the "offense" but the Bulls dont care. They've built thier team around athletic defenders/rebounders. Thier scorers are Deng/Gordon. These KG/Gasol trade speculations are nothing more than fantasy bball GMs getting thier rocks off.

If Minny wanted Noah they would have drafted him. If Minny wanted Noah they would have inquired about him. If Bulls took Noah as a piece to trade they would have done so because Minnesota or Memphis would have said "This is who we would want" because trading Noah is like trading lottery pick. Seattle told Boston who they wanted when they made the trade. Boston took the player Seattle wanted. WHY would Bulls randomly take a player just to trade him as if Memphis/Minny wants them?

Gasol was rumored to be in trade talks...Memphis rejected deals MUCH better than the silkly Noah, Nocioni, Darko, Duhon, your mom and baby sister deal proposed. You and others can keep creating these fantasy trades. You and others can ASSume Noah was drafted because he is trade bait. Bulls wanted him. Sixers tried to trade up with the Bulls to get him. Bulls said no thanks, we like Noah. Or wait the phone convo went "No we want Noah because we can give him to Memphis or Minny in pursuit of Gasol/KG"...but what if Memphis/Minny dont want Noah? Then you drafted him for nothing? *total silence*

Use the brain god gave you. Look at the history of players drafted, added to the Bulls. What general theme fits? When you figure out the mystery apologize for siding with GeeWiz. What the f*ck happened to ISH with the emergence of these damn emo posters.
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