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Old 07-04-2007, 01:32 PM   #1
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Default Official #14 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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To try and move this ISH list on a little faster, It might be better if we get two votes a day. Maybe once every 12 hours (or whenever I get to the house.) I think 100 days would just be to long.









The voting for the #13 greatest player of All-Time is through. Now that we got the top-ten out the way, these next few additions should be interesting. Maybe it‘s only fitting that #12 Dr. J is joined by his teammate, Moses Malone. Big Mo, goes in with 3 NBA MVP’s, 12 All-Star appearances and 1 NBA titles in 1983 as part of the “fo fo fo” Phila 6ers.

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8 All-NBA Teams
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ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time


1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
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11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone


Let’s get into player 'NUMBER 14’ ?


Some players to consider:


Elgin Baylor
Karl Malone
John Havlicek
Bob Pettit
George Mikan



#13 Greatest Player Voting
Moses Malone = 15 votes
Karl Malone = 6 votes
Elgin Baylor = 5 votes
George Mikan = 2 votes
Dirk Nowitzki = 2 votes
Bob Pettit = 1 vote
John Havlicek = 1 vote
Bob Cousy = 1 vote
David Robinson = 1 vote
Kobe Bryant = 1 vote


Official #13 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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Old 07-04-2007, 01:35 PM   #2
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can Stockton and Malone go in together??

no?

ok Karl Malone
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Karl Malone.
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Elgin Baylor!!
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Kobe Bean Bryant

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George Mikan.
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Tip: read the first 13 before voting on 14.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:47 PM   #15
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Here's my post from the last thread. I think it sums up my views pretty well. It was towards the end, so a lot of people probably missed it. Hopefully, it'll change a few minds.

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C'mon people. George Mikan. The guy was absolutely unstoppable in his era. He won seven total titles (counting BAA, NBL, and NBA championships), including five in six years with the Lakers(the only year they lost was due to Mikan's fractured leg). At 6'10", he was the leagues first dominant center, winning numerous scoring and rebounding titles.

I cannot begin to fathom why he's been given so little consideration for the list thus far. Is it because of the competition? Because everyone thinks player X could be tossed into Mikan's era and put up far more spectacular stats, while winning far more championships? If that is indeed the case, how can everyone be so certain? You can't, no one can. That is merely speculation, and why should speculation be brought into serious historical debates? The truth is, there are to many factors involved to make an assumption like that. Today's players have a huge advantage in terms of strength and conditioning knowledge. If player X grew up in Mikan's era he would not have that benefit. Would he still be able to dominate? Could he even make the league? It's impossible to determine, and that is why it makes no sense to plug players into other eras with the intent of proving or disproving their superiority over the rest of the league at that time. We must stick with the facts, and the facts say Mikan was the anchor of the NBA's first true dynasty.

If Dr. J can get in partially based on influence, shouldn't Mikan be able to also? They had to literally change the rules to try to limit his sheer, utter domination of the sport. For instance, the widening of the lane (known as "the Mikan rule") and the introduction of the shot clock can be traced back to him. Now that's impressive. Also, Mikan almost singlehandedly popularized the league, drawing enormous crowds to all of his games. He was the leagues first legitimate superstar. Now that's influence. Where would the league be without him? Might it be nothing more than an afterthought? Who knows? What we do know, however, is that Mikan's dominance and influence shaped the league for years to come, which should surely be enough to warrant a spot on this list.

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