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Old 07-05-2007, 12:37 PM   #31
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As cool a guy as grant is.....it's pretty ****ed up that he "did not give the Magic much consideration".

Even after Orlando stuck by him through all those years.

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Old 07-05-2007, 12:47 PM   #32
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:49 PM   #33
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Damn he took the minimum, talk about desperate for a ring.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:52 PM   #34
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if he was so desperate why not go to the spurs? seriously.. i dont understand this move by hill.
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Old 07-05-2007, 12:52 PM   #35
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great place to go for grant hill... he gets to go to a great team that has a legit chance at a title, AND this team has enough depth to give Grant a chance to play a full season and not overwork his body.

a million bucks is a great price to pay for hill's services. definitely won't have the impact he had in orlando...
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By John Denton
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ORLANDO _ Grant Hill, whose seven years in Orlando were marred by crippling injuries to his ankle and abdomen, informed the Magic today that he is leaving to sign a free-agent contract with the Phoenix Suns.

Hill confirmed Thursday morning that he was leaving and said he would discuss the matter more later today. Check back with FLORIDA TODAY.com today for updates.

Because of the injuries that robbed so much of the prime of his career, Hill played in just 200 of a possible 574 games in his seven years in Orlando. He missed 65.1 percent of the games with the Magic.

Hill, whose $92.88 million contract with the Magic expired on July 1, will sign a one-year deal for the veteran minimum of $1.2 million. The deal can't be officially signed until July 1, the first day contracts become official.

The soon-to-be 35-year-old guard/forward will be joining a Suns team looking get past San Antonio and Dallas in the Western Conference and play for a championship during two-time MVP Steve Nashís prime. Hill has never been on a team that has won a playoff series in his 13-year NBA career.

Hill will likely replace Raja Bell in the Sunsí starting lineup at shooting guard. He could shift to his natural position, small forward, if Phoenix trades Shawn Marion as rumored.

Hill briefly flirted with retirement after the Magic were swept out of the playoffs by the Detroit Pistons. But after working as an analyst for ABC at The NBA Finals, Hill decided he wanted to make one more push at chasing a championship. San Antonio, Miami, Dallas, the Los Angeles Lakers and Orlando pursued Hill this offseason.

Unlike in 2000, when Hill visited Orlando on the first day of the free-agent courting period and committed verbally to the Magic two days later, he stayed at his Orlando home this time and communicated with teams. He heard pitches from the Spurs, Mavericks and Heat over the course of Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. It was his conversation with new Suns general manager Steve Kerr on Tuesday that led to him picking Phoenix.

Magic general manager Otis Smith said repeatedly that he wanted Hill back. And Hillís hopes of returning seemed to spike last week when he met with new coach Stan Van Gundy, who told Hill he felt he could still play a vital role on the Magic.

That might have changed Tuesday when the Magic got a verbal commitment from 6-foot-10 small forward Rashard Lewis, the most coveted free agent on the market.

Hill arrived in Orlando as a free agent in 2000 to much hype and hope, but a broken left ankle soon soured those feelings. He played just four games his first season, 14 in the second and 29 in the third _ all of them ending with surgeries.

He missed all of the 2003-04 season when following a radical surgery in which Hillís ankle and heel were broken purposely and realigned. But it was following that surgery that Hill contracted a nasty staph infection in his left leg. His fever spiked to 104.5 degrees and his body went into convulsions. Doctors eventually got his fever under control and had to replace veins in his lower left leg with ones from his upper arm.

He made a triumphant return in 2004-05, playing 67 games and making the all-star team while averaging 19.7 points a game.

But misfortune struck again when Hill tore muscles in his groin region and the subsequent sports hernia limited him to just 21 games as the Magic missed the playoffs yet again.

This past season, Hill made it all the way to the end of the season healthy for the first time since 1999. Despite being limited in back-to-back sets of games and rarely ever practicing, Hill averaged 14.4 points and led the Magic to the playoffs for the first time in four years.
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No way he takes Raja's spot. Im guaranteeing that. They would have NIL defence besides Amare's shot blocking.
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what a little b!ttch, screw that gimp. he should have learned from michael finley, danny ferry, steve smith, jarren jackson, jerome kersey, and kevin willis. we bring rings to geezers. its a proven fact, but whatever... good luck to him in phx.

Um.. is there a better reason for calling Grant Hill a "b*tch" and "gimp" other than he signed with one of the Spur's rivals? Please tell me there is. I thought you were better than that.
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He won't be taking Raja's spot in the lineup. That's laughable. The Suns would really be in a defensive bind if Hill had to take 2's every game. He could start in a small ball lineup of:

Amare
Marion
Hill
Bell
Nash

But other than that, he'll be used off the bench.
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if he was so desperate why not go to the spurs? seriously.. i dont understand this move by hill.


Becuase if he goes to the Spurs, he would get ZERO respect even if he wins a ring next year. Because of people like Rockets (Tmac) and countless others that continue to play into the fallacy that "Malone and GP tried to ride the Lakers to a ring". (The Lakers got destroyed in 03 and needed help at PG and PF badly, basically they needed GP and Malone as much as they wanted to sign with the Lakers, but the clowns will continue to play off the scenerio as if the Lakers were dominating the league and GP and Malone begged to sign with them.)

Face it, the clowns on ISH would never give Hill any credit if he goes to the spurs and win next year because the Spurs won this year without him. If he goes to the Suns (who may or may not have beaten the Spurs this year) and wins it next year, at least Hill may get some credit "he was the final piece of the puzzle that got them over the hump" or whatever.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:25 PM   #41
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People seem to forget that Grant Hill would break down physically under Brian Hill's snail-paced offense.

How long do you think he will last in the Suns offense? I doubt he can keep up.
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:28 PM   #42
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As cool a guy as grant is.....it's pretty ****ed up that he "did not give the Magic much consideration".

Even after Orlando stuck by him through all those years.
Why should he give Orlando consideration? It's clear that Orlando's offseason plan has nothing to do with Grant Hill until they take care of a bunch of other things they consider more important. Grant Hill was Phoenix's #1 priority.

What's he going to do? Tell Phoenix "Sorry guys, I've gotta wait around while this other team pretends I'm an important part of their immediate future"?
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Posted July 5 2007, 11:50 AM EDT


Grant Hill has decided to sign with the Phoenix Suns to hopefully hitch a ride to an NBA title, leaving the Orlando Magic after seven injury-racked, mostly unfulfilled seasons.

Hill has agreed to a two-year contract with the Suns for the biennial veteran's exception, paying him $1.8 million the first year and a player option of $1.9 million for the second year.



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Hill, whose seven-year, $93 million contract with the Magic expired after the past season, apparently was eyeing the Suns from the start of the NBA free-agency signing period.

It had been reported that Hill had spoken with the Miami Heat and the Detroit Pistons, whom he played with the first six seasons of his career.

A 6 foot-8 seven-time all-star, Hill averaged 14.4 points per game last season with the Magic. He played in 65 games -- the most since playing 67 in the 2004-05 season.

Hill, who arrived in a sign-and-trade in the summer of 2000 to Orlando from Detroit, was expected to team with fellow free-agent star Tracy McGrady to return the Magic to post-Shaq prominence. But he underwent five surgeries on his left ankle and another surgery to repair a hernia, and, in all, played in just 202 regular-season games.
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if he was so desperate why not go to the spurs? seriously.. i dont understand this move by hill.

Because a veteran going to the defending champs is a b!tch move. It's announcing to the world, "I'd like a ring, but I don't think my presence on a team has any positive effect whatsoever."
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if he was so desperate why not go to the spurs? seriously.. i dont understand this move by hill.
He probably wanted to have a bigger role than he would have on the Spurs. Or he just liked the Suns style of play better.
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