Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-14-2007, 08:02 PM   #46
Collie
Good college starter
 
Collie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,277
Collie is a pretty well-respected posterCollie is a pretty well-respected posterCollie is a pretty well-respected posterCollie is a pretty well-respected poster
Default Re: Most important positions in order for team success

Quote:
Originally Posted by maracle10
Then why hasn't Kobe won without Shaq?

I think Point Guards are most important...it's very rare to see a championship team with a crappy PG.

Jordan proved that you can win without a big man...so that takes Centers and Power Forwards out of the question...although Ron Harper wasnt all that great so Jordan just screws up most of our statements of Centers and Point Guards being most important anyway...

Rarer still for a championship team to have a crappy center.

Of the last 20 years only the Bulls won the championship had a less than decent C... (I consider Duncan without Drob a Center as much as he is a PF)

Then again, you have Derek Fisher as the starting PG for the Lakers, Kenny Smith, while certainly not crappy, was pretty much just a spot up shooter by the time Houston was winning. Avery Johnson... solid PG, but nowhere near allstar status. Jason Williams? Ugh. Lionel Hollins was the 1977 Blazer PG, and even I had to look him up.
Collie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2007, 08:04 PM   #47
mateo31
Go ahead, make my day.
 
mateo31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 827
mateo31 has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Most important positions in order for team success

You need to have a big guy who can score in the low post and control the paint, and a solid point guard.
mateo31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2007, 08:19 PM   #48
Y2Gezee
Troll spotting pro
 
Y2Gezee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In hell when Im on ISH
Posts: 4,613
Y2Gezee is a pretty well-respected posterY2Gezee is a pretty well-respected posterY2Gezee is a pretty well-respected poster
Default Re: Most important positions in order for team success

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
Funny that you bring up Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan is surrounded by a supporting cast that's actually inferior to Anthony's. No other Spur can touch Iverson (certainly not Parker), Camby is better than the other bigs (and Hilario may be as well), and although Ginobili is better than Smith it's not a huge difference. So why are the Spurs so much better? Camby isn't Duncan's equal on d but he does defend at a high level. It's not just the "great" (not really) Spurs shooting, Carmelo Anthony is not on par with TD as a scorer in the paint. He isn't even close. He can not go over bigs nearly as well. This shouldn't even be a discussion point.


You're simply making the argument into something that it isnt. It isn't a question of who's the better player Duncan or Anthony or Pierce or whoever. The topic we should be discussing is what are the needs of a team. Ofcourse Duncan is better in the paint than Anthony, Im not arguing that. But Melo isn't as helpless when being doubled by bigs as you would like to pretend in the post. No he isn't as good as Duncan, but he can still score or get fouled. He is still an elite scorer at a high percentage and gets a lot of work done down low, and gets a lot of attention off of his teammates and opens things up for them from inside. And again with his acrobatics he can handle the ball better and make a easy dumpoff pass if a big does come over to double on him aswell as kick it out to the perimeter. That all fills the need of the interior scorer, basically. Now again, the other team need floor spacing and shooting to go along with that post play. Melo doesn't have it and Duncan does.

Its not about who's better. Duncan is the interior scorer, interior defender, and rebounder in one. And you may think that proves your point, but it does not. There are only a handful of players in the league that can do all of those needs Duncan fills, effectively. Again, its more about the needs for the team, not really what position does them.

Denver pretty much has all of them aside from consistent floor spacing or shooting.
Y2Gezee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2007, 08:22 PM   #49
Pyro
Banned
 
Pyro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: OJ Mayo's Crew
Posts: 1,168
Pyro has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Most important positions in order for team success

1. Center
2. Point Guard
3. Power Forward
4. Small Forward / Shooting Guard (they are about the same)
Pyro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2007, 09:14 PM   #50
miles berg
MFFL
 
miles berg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dublin TX
Posts: 2,818
miles berg is considered somewhat coolmiles berg is considered somewhat cool
Default Re: Most important positions in order for team success

Point guard is the least important. It has been 25 years, since Isiah Thomas, that a "true" PG has led his team to a title.

PGs are a joke when talking about winning a title.
miles berg is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:47 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site













Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy