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Old 06-28-2015, 01:55 PM   #1
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Default Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

It uses a word that a lot of people dont like. Also one of the characters is a slave, which recalls a time in American history which we should only acknowledge when it is used for left-wing leverage. Otherwise it should never be mentioned or remembered.

There is no place for such a work in a publicly funded library. It's presence is frankly atrocious.

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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

Let me guess, you believe this equates to government buildings being asked not to fly the confederate flag. Am I right?
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

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Let me guess, you believe this equates to government buildings being asked not to fly the confederate flag. Am I right?
Well, to be fair, public schools and public libraries ARE government buildings.
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

Did Josh write that book?
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

And the butthurt continues


I thought you were about what MATTERS, this is just petty
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Nice troll attempt there starface.

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Shut the **** up Chris
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

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Well, to be fair, public schools and public libraries ARE government buildings.
And libraries shouldn't fly confederate flags either. Flying a flag in front of the building is not the same thing or sending the same message as stocking a novel on your book shelves for people to read. Libraries have all sorts of controversial, historical, fictional and non fictional information within them. You can read books on hitler in libraries, or the confederate states, or find information and books on slavery in the united states. The content that can be found within libraries are not supposed to be censored they are supposed to stock their shelves and archives objectively that's their function.

Flying a flag out front is not the same as stocking your archives full of information that you are supposed to have inside. Libraries flying their countries, states, or local communities flag makes sense. That's showing some patriotism, and/or support of the present state/community that funds them no big deal. Libraries or other government buildings that would choose to fly a flag that represents racism or hate, historically or otherwise, doesn't make sense.

You, and OP can try and muddy this up and cross examine it all you want but this is pretty cut and dry.

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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

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And libraries shouldn't fly confederate flags either. Flying a flag in front of the building is not the same thing or sending the same message as stocking a novel on your book shelves for people to read. Libraries have all sorts of controversial, historical, fictional and non fictional information within them. You can read books on hitler in libraries, or the confederate states, or find information and books on slavery in the united states. The content that can be found within libraries are not supposed to be censored they are supposed to stock their shelves and archives objectively that's their function.

Flying a flag out front is not the same as stocking your archives full of information that you are supposed to have inside. Libraries flying their countries, states, or local communities flag makes sense. That's showing some patriotism, and/or support of the present state/community that funds them no big deal. Libraries or other government buildings that would choose to fly a flag that represents racism or hate, historically or otherwise, doesn't make sense.

You, and OP can try and muddy this up and cross examine it all you want but this is pretty cut and dry.
The problem is that the confederate flag has been commonplace in the south for generations. It's just not reasonable to tell people who have lived their entire with that flag having a prominent role in the public space, that it's ONLY context is that of what it was 100+ years before they were born.

I just think its a little dishonest for some to act like the context of the flag has had 0 change between the 1860s and the 2010s.

It's also not appropriate to compare it to the nazi flag. The nazi flag was immediately taken down and banned. The confederate flag however has been all over the south for 150 years. It's been culturally normalized. It's more like the English flag, the cross of st. George, which is actually a crusader flag. But after enough time, it would be foolish to say that the context has not changed. It's clearly the flag of England now. It would be weird to strictly view it as a crusade flag.
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Old 06-28-2015, 06:24 PM   #11
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

Only if the people want it to be banned, just like the flags.

It all depends on what the masses wants.
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Old 06-28-2015, 07:20 PM   #12
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Only if the people want it to be banned, just like the flags.

It all depends on what the masses wants.


But I thought it was the job of the courts to decide what the masses get? Or the federal government? Or Tom, Dick, and Harry who dont live anywhere near the state theyre trying to control the policy of?
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But I thought it was the job of the courts to decide what the masses get? Or the federal government? Or Tom, Dick, and Harry who dont live anywhere near the state theyre trying to control the policy of?
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

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And libraries shouldn't fly confederate flags either. Flying a flag in front of the building is not the same thing or sending the same message as stocking a novel on your book shelves for people to read. Libraries have all sorts of controversial, historical, fictional and non fictional information within them. You can read books on hitler in libraries, or the confederate states, or find information and books on slavery in the united states. The content that can be found within libraries are not supposed to be censored they are supposed to stock their shelves and archives objectively that's their function.

Flying a flag out front is not the same as stocking your archives full of information that you are supposed to have inside. Libraries flying their countries, states, or local communities flag makes sense. That's showing some patriotism, and/or support of the present state/community that funds them no big deal. Libraries or other government buildings that would choose to fly a flag that represents racism or hate, historically or otherwise, doesn't make sense.

You, and OP can try and muddy this up and cross examine it all you want but this is pretty cut and dry.


The Confederate flag does not represent racism. It's represents an era, and a small-government ideology. The south had been in conflict with the north on various issues since the end of the American revolution.

Slavery happened to have existed where the Confederate flag flew. Oh well. Thats history and thats reality. Slavery existed in Rome. Should we ban latin-rooted words from all government books and law codes? Slavery exists rampantly in Africa and India today. Should we scorn those flags and religions and images? Slavery and discrimination existed under the American flag. Ban it?

This is the left wing throwing American principles out the window because theyre on a "one-up the rednecks" crudsade. That's all this is. This their "We're so much better than the southerners, look how WE babysit minorities" affirmation of their moral and class superiority.

They openly scorn southern culture the way many southerners they complain about do to others. This is about big-city liberals wanting to feel better than someone. Just like poor rednecks do that to blacks, just like blacks do it to gays. Liberals are completely interested in feeling their own power and moral goodliness by getting southerners to have to change a flag theyre proud of. Pure faggotry.
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Old 06-28-2015, 07:52 PM   #15
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Default Re: Does Huck Finn need to be banned from public libraries?

White nationalist bigots can still fly the confederate flag on their private properties, and they can freely own a copy of "Mein Kampf" without fear of arrest, if that's what they wish. Nothing has been banned.

State governments shouldn't have a flag that symbolizes treason, slavery, segregation, and slavery flying outside their buildings. It sends a terrible message, always has.

What are these whiny ass Bushbots complaining about again?
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