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Old 10-27-2013, 09:30 PM   #1561
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source is Dave Meltzer, nothing to see here folks.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:33 PM   #1562
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Vince aint buyin TNA. It wouldn't be worthwhile. He bought WCW for 2 reasons:

1. Pride. They almost put him out of business and it was probably the biggest ego boost of all time to buy them and end the company for good

2. They had a bunch of legendary wrestlers that WWE could snatch up. NWO, DDP, Booker T, Rey Mysterio, Goldberg, Scott Steiner etc. Granted WWE didn't use all those guys as well as they could have, but they still wanted them

TNA has a few good guys but nobody that WWE hasn't passed on already at some point.
Also he got it for like $4 million, and they had a 20+ odd year video library included. It was a bargain.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:51 PM   #1563
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Fvcking Hogan and Bischoff did it again....
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:52 PM   #1564
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Well, that was...
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:04 PM   #1565
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Lately? TNA has been actually building itself away from both.

Yeah, but the millions that those parasites (and their children) have already siphoned from he company, as well as the harmful creative direction that they pushed have surely taken a toll.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:11 PM   #1566
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Yeah, but the millions that those parasites (and their children) have already siphoned from he company, as well as the harmful creative direction that they pushed have surely taken a toll.

OFN, Gut-Check, X-Division weight limit and then before even ending the weight-limit---they reinstate the weight limit? X-Division "All matches are triple-threat!" and the when everybody hates it; "All matches are 1-on-one!" No, that's the same problem you god-damned morons.

Throughout the 2000's I watched nearly every iMPACT, then these two came along and it as most weeks, then every other week, then once a month, then I stopped watching. I've watched the last month or so and the most recent was fantastic.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:19 PM   #1567
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I liked Gut Check, but wasn't a fan of OFN, or the messing about with the X-Division rules they made.

Wasn't a fan for Bound For Glory either since it was so messy. No real rhyme or reason for the matchups, then the random "20 point gimmick match" they'd throw in there to make the previous matches completely pointless.

It'll suck if TNA goes out of business for guys like Austin Aries and AJ Styles since the WWE have made it pretty clear they don't see anything in them. Aries burnt his bridges in ROH too apparently, so it'd be a Japan or retire type situation for him. I reckon the only guys WWE would think about hiring would be Magnus, Bobby Roode and maybe Samoa Joe.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:28 PM   #1568
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I didn't mind gut-check conceptually, but I think the execution was terrible. The should have started off on Xplosion until they knew how to do it.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:11 PM   #1569
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I didn't mind gut-check conceptually, but I think the execution was terrible. The should have started off on Xplosion until they knew how to do it.
Yea, I think they could have done it a bit better. I think the only reason they don't put that kind of stuff on Xplosion is because that show is only shown outside the US.

At the very least they could have spent more time hyping the individual participants, show some interviews and package clips for the 3 weeks leading up to the actual matches so you at least know who these guys are when they wrestle.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:48 AM   #1570
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lolcenawins

Let's be real, there was no chance that Cena wasn't winning that match. They need to make the Heavyweight Championship relevant again.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:47 PM   #1571
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Welp.. Damian Sandow can't beat a one armed Cena who had just been brutally attacked and had his "injured" arm smashed in between the steel steps with a steel chair..

Not only did Cena beat him clean, he had him beat earlier in the match but didnt want to win by count out, so he rolled him into the ring basically beating him twice.

Sandow might aswell retire. I like him, but holy shit how can we ever take that character as a serious threat after losing to a 1 armed man who was in a championship match the night before, beaten down with a chair and on top of that the guy returned 4 months early.

What a waste, what was the point of Sandow winning the briefcase? So he could be fed to Cena? Does WWE plan anything out ahead of time besides their main event program?
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:30 PM   #1572
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Welp.. Damian Sandow can't beat a one armed Cena who had just been brutally attacked and had his "injured" arm smashed in between the steel steps with a steel chair..

Not only did Cena beat him clean, he had him beat earlier in the match but didnt want to win by count out, so he rolled him into the ring basically beating him twice.

Sandow might aswell retire. I like him, but holy shit how can we ever take that character as a serious threat after losing to a 1 armed man who was in a championship match the night before, beaten down with a chair and on top of that the guy returned 4 months early.

What a waste, what was the point of Sandow winning the briefcase? So he could be fed to Cena? Does WWE plan anything out ahead of time besides their main event program?

I'm increasingly sure that every one on the roster over 6ft tall is just there to be fed to super-cena. This sh*t was stale less than a year after he won the strap.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:47 AM   #1573
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The second Sandow cashed in and it went to a commercial, I knew Cena was gonna win. My first thought was Sandow would win, setting up a fued with Cena at the next PPV and Del Rio somehow getting involved, setting up a triple threat match. Now? Idk.

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Old 10-29-2013, 11:46 AM   #1574
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No matter what happens with TNA from here on, no one can act like the company created its demise. You can talk about goofy contracts or crap angles here and there, but its nothing no wrestling company ever hasn't or won't ever do. I think at this point TNA as a viewing product is the best its ever been, and i've been watching since those $10 Wednesday PPVs. If anything held the company back it would be the very thing the internet praised them for; pushing the x division. As much as i enjoy a lot of those guys, fans are insane to think TNA could grow or maintain a profit with these tiny guys flying around the ring as the main guys. AJ, Aries, Daniels, and Joe have always been in a league of their own, and you can argue that only Aries really has the total package.

It would take TNA to be around on tv consistently for about 15-20 years before they made a dent in WWE's audience, especially in this day where the average fan is more WWE mark than wrestling mark. wCw got to grow out of NWA's fandom and launch itself with great backing. TNA had to go in reverse; it had to fight against the negative rep wCw created for any wrestling company wanting to be on TV that isn't WWE. Had to fight against WWE basically taking over all the wrestling world, against lack of financial backing to attract names (and you do need names, this isn't a sport backed by stats), and against the time needed to build itself (as TNA has always been rushed into becoming a big deal - by fans and corporate).

Anyway, i've enjoyed the hell out of TNA this last year plus some, and really hope the company keeps going. People have been saying the company is dead for the last decade, and they have all been wrong. And they'll be wrong about any reason they say it died if it does soon, unless that reason is money. Because WWE has been shit the last 6-7 years, but because they are the household name with the wrestling monopoly, they can be crap as they try to find their new boom (which appears to be on its way), but no other company gets that luxury, and i blame the fans for that. As a wrestling fan, even when i didn't enjoy TNA, i appreciated TNA, the same goes for wanting RoH, PWG, Chikara, and other companies to continuing growing; because wrestling fans need variety, so that the talent has options as to where they can make their living. If all they have is overseas and WWE, then that makes for a boring wrestling universe.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:19 PM   #1575
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If only TNA can somehow move Impact to a network with wider audience than Spike, which is functionally dead at least to me now.


Rumors are that most likely Viacom will buy TNA, which would keep it on Spike, but could be a blessing in disguise since Viacom could promote the hell out of it all over prime time TV.

If the wanted to, Viacom could have TNA the best chance of succeeding that they are likely to get unless Turner wants to go back to his roots or take one last shot at Vince

AJ Styles is scheduled to defend the TNA WORLD championship in AAA this Sunday
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