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Old 03-01-2013, 04:16 AM   #1126
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If that's the case. Undertaker should be making a Raw appearance next Monday. They got 5 weeks to build up the feud.

Both wrestlers are so over with the fans and very capable at selling heat within a feud that I guess they felt as though they had the option of stalling his impending return, but delaying it any longer would constitute as bad booking in my opinion. Taker in all likelihood should be there on Monday. Otherwise the whole damn thing is just gunna feel rushed and forced to the point where even these two talented forces won't be able to sell the match profciently...
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:47 AM   #1127
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How do you historically rank wrestlers when it's all set up and the winners are per-determined? Is it by entertainment value? Showmanship? Legit question.

we all have our preferences but yes, entertainment value and showmanship are among some of the factors. there's also gimmick (presentation), technical skills, performance, consistency and mic skills. shit, just like in other sports, can they step up on the big stage? are they good at carrying feuds? there's also wrestlers that can make others look their best. danielson has seriously made matches. you can argue miz, dolph, sin cara, dibiase, etc. all had their best matches w/ DB.

historically? i guess some people like to factor in draws/buy rates which makes sense but i was never too huge into that. you like what you like...i've liked guys gimmicks so much that i've overlooked some of their other non-factors (razor ramon). or i've liked guys that weren't major draws at all (some cruiserweights).

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Old 03-01-2013, 04:52 AM   #1128
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we all have our preferences but yes, entertainment value and showmanship are among some of the factors. there's also gimmick (presentation), technical skills, performance, consistency and mic skills. shit, just like in other sports, can they step up on the big stage? are they good at carrying feuds? there's also wrestlers that can make others look their best. danielson has seriously made matches. you can argue miz, dolph, sin cara, dibiase, etc. all had their best matches w/ DB.

historically? i guess some people like to factor in draws/buy rates which makes sense but i was never too huge into that. you like what you like...i've liked guys gimmicks so much that i've overlooked some of their other non-factors (razor ramon). or i've liked guys that weren't major draws at all (some cruiserweights).

Interesting.. thanks.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:50 PM   #1129
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How do you historically rank wrestlers when it's all set up and the winners are per-determined? Is it by entertainment value? Showmanship? Legit question.


Yeah I base it on mic skills, entertainment, storytelling and just the ability to make people give a damn. Basically the same standards that you would judge an actor by. Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor because he entertains you, draws you into the story, makes you like him, makes you hate him, he makes you care about the movie he was in.

It's not really even about atheticism to me. Guys like Andre the Giant and Mick Foley weren't athletic at all, but theyre still great because they made you care.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:03 PM   #1130
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This has been a piss poor road to wrestlemania, hardly any build for any match, and considering next RAW is going to be a "throw away" show we're only going to have like 3-4 weeks of storyline build up for mania..

Da **** is that about? That's like your build time for a regular ppv. I was really wanting to get back into wrestling this year & order mania.. But they just haven't gotten me excited for it, which is sad because I was eager to get back into their product
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:07 PM   #1131
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Does anybody watch Smackdown on ISH?
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:16 PM   #1132
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Does anybody watch Smackdown on ISH?

I've been switching back and forth between that and the Cavs game. One thing though, Smackdown definitely proves that WWE makes up all their "now trending" stuff. During the Alberto Del Rio match Cole goes "trending right now on Twitter: Alberto Del Rio". But Smackdown is taped on Tuesday so they have no way of knowing what will be trending while people watch it on Friday.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:26 PM   #1133
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I've been switching back and forth between that and the Cavs game. One thing though, Smackdown definitely proves that WWE makes up all their "now trending" stuff. During the Alberto Del Rio match Cole goes "trending right now on Twitter: Alberto Del Rio". But Smackdown is taped on Tuesday so they have no way of knowing what will be trending while people watch it on Friday.

Now that's just sad.

I've been going through the old attitude ppv, starting from Royal Rumble 98 and it's insane the far the comparison between now and then. From the matches, promos, commentating (Prime Ross/King is the best I've listened to), crowd reactions. I don't think those days will ever come back, until WWE has to face up against a real competitive company.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:18 PM   #1134
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Some classic Shawn Michaels matches. Some are really old and I didn't even know happened

http://www.youtube.com/user/ShawnMichaelsHBK619
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:19 PM   #1135
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This has been a piss poor road to wrestlemania, hardly any build for any match, and considering next RAW is going to be a "throw away" show we're only going to have like 3-4 weeks of storyline build up for mania..

Da **** is that about? That's like your build time for a regular ppv. I was really wanting to get back into wrestling this year & order mania.. But they just haven't gotten me excited for it, which is sad because I was eager to get back into their product
3 Hour format kills all the momentum. Last week's RAW told Cena's Mania story. It was fantastic. Great Tv match, built up with anticipation off the past Monday, Cena throwing in some wrinkles.

Swagger had his thing with miz and then a match a segment later. It all went off the tracks there. Thats something we woulda seen held a week to main event smackdown or 1st hour of next weeks Raw. The way it was booked felt like filler. I dont care about Swaggers story when they throw him out there just to get as much exposure on tv as they can.

This week gonna be all about Punk.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:29 PM   #1136
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Paul bearer is dead rip!
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:12 AM   #1137
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Paul bearer is dead rip!
One of the best pro wrestling managers in the business. He was a big part for WWE during the 90's era.

Mark "Undertaker" Callaway should have something as a tribute to him next week on Raw or WM.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:28 AM   #1138
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MY CHILDHOOOOOOOD!!!

How did he pass?
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:29 AM   #1139
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MY CHILDHOOOOOOOD!!!

How did he pass?

They haven't announced how yet.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:31 AM   #1140
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MY CHILDHOOOOOOOD!!!

How did he pass?
The report doesn't tell anything, but they guess that it is probably because of obesity. He had a gastric bypass surgery trying to fix the issues years ago when he got another contract with WWE.
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