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Old 02-27-2013, 09:13 PM   #1411
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I'm pretty sure Taker vs Punk is gunna be on the ballot where you can expect the streak to continue as it always will...
If that's the case. Undertaker should be making a Raw appearance next Monday. They got 5 weeks to build up the feud.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:17 PM   #1412
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Who is Jericho in a match with at WM?
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:40 PM   #1413
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Who is Jericho in a match with at WM?

The Shield I think. Ryback/Jericho/Orton vs. Shield I think, somethin like that.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:48 PM   #1414
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Ryback is like 0-5 since becoming a "partial main eventer" back in October. I got a feeling he's gonna get to squash The Shield at Mania.

The Shield seems to lost a bit of that mojo since moving away from Punk, Rock, Cena angles.
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #1415
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Ryback is like 0-5 since becoming a "partial main eventer" back in October. I got a feeling he's gonna get to squash The Shield at Mania.

The Shield seems to lost a bit of that mojo since moving away from Punk, Rock, Cena angles.
He didn't lose clean though so those somewhat don't count. I can see RyBread and maybe one or two others against the Shields at WM.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:06 PM   #1416
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Ryback is like 0-5 since becoming a "partial main eventer" back in October. I got a feeling he's gonna get to squash The Shield at Mania.

The Shield seems to lost a bit of that mojo since moving away from Punk, Rock, Cena angles.

shield is a vehicle for roman reigns after that chamber ppv. the other 2 are gonna take the beatings and the losses from here out.

lots of rumors about brock and ryback cuz of the contract extension. long term thats the way to go, heyman and vince can carry that feud.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:10 PM   #1417
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He didn't lose clean though so those somewhat don't count. I can see RyBread and maybe one or two others against the Shields at WM.
They do count though because clean wins/loses only happens once in a blue moon. There are so many cheap/dirty finishes in pro wrestling that I don't even consider the difference anymore.

Nobody looks at Stone Cold's WM-17 over the Rock as "not counted." And honestly, that WM-17 victory was more significant than his clean win at WM-15 because of his surprised heel turn.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:59 AM   #1418
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Yeah like I said before I think they're gonna set up Taker vs. Punk by having Punk say how he should still get a title shot because he put together the most impressive streak in WWE history (his long reign obviously) then Taker will say HIS streak is the most impressive etc etc etc

Pretty much yeah...

With Punk having just undergone a little losing streak It's probably the worst possible time to try and convince the audience that he actually has a valid chance to thwart Takers coveted streak but I guess it makes sense from a match up standpoint...
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:10 AM   #1419
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How do you historically rank wrestlers when it's all set up and the winners are per-determined? Is it by entertainment value? Showmanship? Legit question.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:16 AM   #1420
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If that's the case. Undertaker should be making a Raw appearance next Monday. They got 5 weeks to build up the feud.

Both wrestlers are so over with the fans and very capable at selling heat within a feud that I guess they felt as though they had the option of stalling his impending return, but delaying it any longer would constitute as bad booking in my opinion. Taker in all likelihood should be there on Monday. Otherwise the whole damn thing is just gunna feel rushed and forced to the point where even these two talented forces won't be able to sell the match profciently...
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:47 AM   #1421
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How do you historically rank wrestlers when it's all set up and the winners are per-determined? Is it by entertainment value? Showmanship? Legit question.

we all have our preferences but yes, entertainment value and showmanship are among some of the factors. there's also gimmick (presentation), technical skills, performance, consistency and mic skills. shit, just like in other sports, can they step up on the big stage? are they good at carrying feuds? there's also wrestlers that can make others look their best. danielson has seriously made matches. you can argue miz, dolph, sin cara, dibiase, etc. all had their best matches w/ DB.

historically? i guess some people like to factor in draws/buy rates which makes sense but i was never too huge into that. you like what you like...i've liked guys gimmicks so much that i've overlooked some of their other non-factors (razor ramon). or i've liked guys that weren't major draws at all (some cruiserweights).

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Old 03-01-2013, 04:52 AM   #1422
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we all have our preferences but yes, entertainment value and showmanship are among some of the factors. there's also gimmick (presentation), technical skills, performance, consistency and mic skills. shit, just like in other sports, can they step up on the big stage? are they good at carrying feuds? there's also wrestlers that can make others look their best. danielson has seriously made matches. you can argue miz, dolph, sin cara, dibiase, etc. all had their best matches w/ DB.

historically? i guess some people like to factor in draws/buy rates which makes sense but i was never too huge into that. you like what you like...i've liked guys gimmicks so much that i've overlooked some of their other non-factors (razor ramon). or i've liked guys that weren't major draws at all (some cruiserweights).

Interesting.. thanks.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:50 PM   #1423
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How do you historically rank wrestlers when it's all set up and the winners are per-determined? Is it by entertainment value? Showmanship? Legit question.


Yeah I base it on mic skills, entertainment, storytelling and just the ability to make people give a damn. Basically the same standards that you would judge an actor by. Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor because he entertains you, draws you into the story, makes you like him, makes you hate him, he makes you care about the movie he was in.

It's not really even about atheticism to me. Guys like Andre the Giant and Mick Foley weren't athletic at all, but theyre still great because they made you care.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:01 PM   #1424
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Both wrestlers are so over with the fans and very capable at selling heat within a feud that I guess they felt as though they had the option of stalling his impending return, but delaying it any longer would constitute as bad booking in my opinion. Taker in all likelihood should be there on Monday. Otherwise the whole damn thing is just gunna feel rushed and forced to the point where even these two talented forces won't be able to sell the match profciently...
The regular fans won't be hard to draw at all, it's the casual fans that they'd like to get for buy WM-29. And it wouldn't hurt Raw either if Taker can be there since Rock isn't always there.
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:03 PM   #1425
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This has been a piss poor road to wrestlemania, hardly any build for any match, and considering next RAW is going to be a "throw away" show we're only going to have like 3-4 weeks of storyline build up for mania..

Da **** is that about? That's like your build time for a regular ppv. I was really wanting to get back into wrestling this year & order mania.. But they just haven't gotten me excited for it, which is sad because I was eager to get back into their product
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