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Old 07-10-2007, 04:56 PM   #1
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This is for all who take issue with white people/Europeans referring to blacks as n-ggers, but who love the Godfather movies, what's your take on the use of the word there? Because they make several racist remarks against blacks, especially in the first two ("They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls...." for example).

My questions are 1) did you notice this when you've watched the movies, and 2) did it affect your opinion on the movie?

I don't recall any usage of the n-word in Part III, but I could be wrong. They had the chronological TV versions of I and II on a couple of weeks ago, so that's why I'm asking.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:58 PM   #2
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it's a movie...
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:59 PM   #3
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Racism is different then an average Joe using the word to sound cool.

The Godfather also hit theatre's in 1972.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:07 PM   #4
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in the course of telling a realistic story, the word is dropped in alot of movies...

only tarentino over does it...... not a big deal when it fits into te tale like it should

my big problem with the godfather and the Sopranos and other movies like it is that people seem to lose their hate for violence and exploitation of women when it comes to these movies/TV shows... Its OK when Tony Soprano caps somebody, but its the end of the world if 2pac is on TV capping somebody....
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Why would Italians make racist remarks against blacks? Aren't they part "ni****"?

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Old 07-10-2007, 05:12 PM   #6
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I agree it's just a movie, and true 1972 was a different time period than now. Thing is when it was on TV, not premium cable but public access cable, they didn't bleep out when they used it, which surprised me in these post-Imus days. Personally it didn't affect me, because the word doesn't define who I am, but I remember in high school one year some black students left the school because we had "Huckleberry Finn" in our English reading list(Huck Finn uses the word, which would make sense since it is set during slavery).

What's funny to me is that some of us blacks would get upset about Mark Twain's works using the n-word, but Godfather did worse and it is on our all-time favortie Al Pacino movie lists. Just seemed double-minded to me.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:18 PM   #7
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What's funny to me is that some of us blacks would get upset about Mark Twain's works using the n-word, but Godfather did worse and it is on our all-time favortie Al Pacino movie lists. Just seemed double-minded to me.

if you look at the situation more broadly..It is double minded...and not just from black folks perspective

society as a whole villifies some things and glorifies other things....its disturbing that people can be manipulated into accepting one and rejecting the other based on manipulation rather real logic
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I agree it's just a movie, and true 1972 was a different time period than now. Thing is when it was on TV, not premium cable but public access cable, they didn't bleep out when they used it, which surprised me in these post-Imus days. Personally it didn't affect me, because the word doesn't define who I am, but I remember in high school one year some black students left the school because we had "Huckleberry Finn" in our English reading list(Huck Finn uses the word, which would make sense since it is set during slavery).

What's funny to me is that some of us blacks would get upset about Mark Twain's works using the n-word, but Godfather did worse and it is on our all-time favortie Al Pacino movie lists. Just seemed double-minded to me.
Alot of black folks and folks of all races are ignorant when it comes to that word. Thats just the way it is.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:25 PM   #9
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In light of that whole NAACP burial of the word the other day(yeah, right), I just wonder how many of those people will burn their copy of Godfather or any other movies that use it in "that" way, or if they'll keep watching them.
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In light of that whole NAACP burial of the word the other day(yeah, right), I just wonder how many of those people will burn their copy of Godfather or any other movies that use it in "that" way, or if they'll keep watching them.
Why would they burn their copy of the Godfather?

The burial was to get blacks from using the wird with one another. If the blacks stop using it, then every other race will follow suit.
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In light of that whole NAACP burial of the word the other day(yeah, right), I just wonder how many of those people will burn their copy of Godfather or any other movies that use it in "that" way, or if they'll keep watching them.


the word itself hasnt even been buried yet...

I swear I dont know what they smoking over at the NAACP these days...

that mock burial was just that.............mock

the word wont be dead until the people have no more reason to use it...and that will involve a serious influx of jobs and education into the black communities in this country...

until then, that stuff is just for show
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Why would they burn their copy of the Godfather?

The burial was to get blacks from using the wird with one another. If the blacks stop using it, then every other race will follow suit.

Seems to me they were expressing their desire to be rid of the word period, which would lead me to think that means throwing away music and movies that use the word. I wonder if those people will bury those too, even their favorite music and movies...


Besides, someone needs to tell NAACP that they don't have one-tenth the clout with black people that they used to, so there was really no point to that whole display. Just state your disgust with the word like America did with Imus, no need for theatrics.

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Seems to me they were expressing their desire to be rid of the word period, which would lead me to think that means throwing away music and movies that use the word. I wonder if those people will bury those too, even their favorite music and movies...


Besides, someone needs to tell NAACP that they don't have one-tenth the clout with black people that they used to, so there was really no point to that whole display. Just state your disgust with the word like America did with Imus, no need for theatrics.
I was saying Godfather has nothing to do with the N-Word. Racism is going to exist.


They are trying to stop these young black men and women from using the word with one another. Tryng to stop these black rappers and comics from spitting out the word.
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Showing truth in films is important and should not be censored. The film was showing the attitudes of the times in regards to these group of people. Its like saying roots should have the word taken out.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:51 PM   #15
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Showing truth in films is important and should not be censored. The film was showing the attitudes of the times in regards to these group of people. Its like saying roots should have the word taken out.

True, same thing with the book Huck Finn, but sadly some cats at my old school were so incensed by the word they talked themselves out of the opportunity to learn the history behind it and ultimately the lesson that words only have as much power as you give them. But like someone said, we act that way in certain instances(Huck Finn, Imus) and not in others(Godfather).
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