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Old 07-17-2007, 03:21 PM   #16
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Ya, I think that is more than obvious ... that's why I listed multiple players and mentioned draft picks. It's not worth much discussion though b/c unless Diop's Bird rights or an extention came along with him (I have no idea if Bird rights are traded or not), the 'Cats wouldn't part with what Dallas would want in return.
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:39 PM   #17
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Bird Rights don't transfer from team to team. I would make a Morrison/May for Diop trade in a second. It works well for both teams.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:19 AM   #18
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Diop is better on the defensive end. If anything his offense is taking a step back if summer league is any indication. And you already have Damp who is an offensive liability because he can't catch the ball. Do you need 2 centers that noone worries about on that side of the floor? When Benga is possibly your best offensive center what does that say? Seeing as how noone is going to want to take Damp's contract, Diop could be easier to move. Though I'd rather move Damp. The Mavs need a backup pf behind Dirk. That's why May interests me. If he could stay on the floor, he could fill that role well. The Mavs at least need a center who can dunk when he gets spoon fed under the goal. Diop can't even do that. If they could get a center that teams couldn't cheat off of, then I'd love Diop as a defensive specialist/backup.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:29 AM   #19
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Bird Rights don't transfer from team to team. I would make a Morrison/May for Diop trade in a second. It works well for both teams.

To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. This means a player can obtain "Bird rights" by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination thereof. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. Bird-exception contracts can be up to six years in length.

This is Diop's 3rd year on this contract with the Mavs, his Bird rights can go with him. Croshere only played last season with the Mavs, but they have his Bird rights due to his contract.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:54 AM   #20
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I would like a Diop for May + Morrison trade. We are loaded with wing players with Richardson, Wallace, Carroll, Ammo, and Dudley. I originally mentioned (maybe not here) May + Dudley because some people think Dudley might be able to play some PF in the NBA. He rebounds well for his size, has a solid mid-range shot, can drain the 3 (44% last season), and he plays hard defense (something people think y'all are lacking); but he's probably too small to play PF in the West. For Charlotte, Diop is bad offensively but our other 4 starters (Felton, JRich, GW, and Okafor) are all capable of going off for 20+ so it wouldn't be an issue.

Silent Mav, we need to get MJ and Cuban in contact to set this thing up! Though it probably wouldn't happen with b/c of the battle of egos...
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:06 AM   #21
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To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. This means a player can obtain "Bird rights" by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination thereof. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. Bird-exception contracts can be up to six years in length.

This is Diop's 3rd year on this contract with the Mavs, his Bird rights can go with him. Croshere only played last season with the Mavs, but they have his Bird rights due to his contract.

I stand corrected, that one's in my face.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:12 AM   #22
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Nah Dirty. I do this mock thing that uses the CBA. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't know jack about Bird rights.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:26 AM   #23
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:14 PM   #24
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Who fits better, Webber or P.J. Brown?
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Old 07-21-2007, 02:18 PM   #25
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Who fits better, Webber or P.J. Brown?

I don't think Webber helps the Mavericks. But same thing to P.J. Brown.
Don't change the team's chemistry!
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:44 PM   #26
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The choke chemistry? I think Webber would be a great addition anywhere. He's an excellent passer, rebounder, and can score quite well.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:11 AM   #27
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Who fits better, Webber or P.J. Brown?

Chris Webber because of his passing and has ability to score in the post. He is a good compliment to Diop
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:15 PM   #28
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Gimme PJ Brown over CWebb. Or try and convince Seattle to dump KThomas somehow.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:13 AM   #29
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Gimme PJ Brown over CWebb. Or try and convince Seattle to dump KThomas somehow.

Might not be that hard since they got him for free.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:58 PM   #30
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Webber has bad knees and the Mavs seem to run alot

if the Mavs do enough running, Webber is going to have the same injury problems he had in Philly!


2nd Webber is not a defensive enforcer he can score, pass and rebound
if yall start Webber opposing teams are coming down the lane all day long!
and the Mavs already have enough Offensive
Putting a non shotblocker next to Dirk doesn't make any sense

so if Chris is coming off the bench then this is a great idea
but starting him would be a disaster.
Your better off with Dampier and Diop both are better defensive players and shot blockers than Webber. Webber a good replacement when you take Dirk off the floor.

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