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Old 07-19-2007, 04:38 PM   #16
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Default Re: Official #28 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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Take the bitter pill...

The next one has to be Kevin McHale..

Look at the list.Kareem #2 and Magic #4.Bird #5.That`s a joke.
Maybe I´m wrong,but it wasn`t Bird against the Lakers,right?

I know people judge him because of his work in Minnesota(and they`re doing right),but this guy was an unique offensive force.
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That made me

Tolbert is a really annoying announcer, but he'll say stuff others won't. Like if a popular star is stinking up the court big time, Tolbert won't let it go...

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Old 07-19-2007, 04:41 PM   #18
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My vote is for the other Clyde. Great defender, great scorer, could pass and was very clutch. He was also one of the most undelfish superstars ever playing on those late 60's/early 70's Knick squads.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:42 PM   #19
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Take the bitter pill...

The next one has to be Kevin McHale..

Look at the list.Kareem #2 and Magic #4.Bird #5.That`s a joke.
Maybe I´m wrong,but it wasn`t Bird against the Lakers,right?

I know people judge him because of his work in Minnesota(and they`re doing right),but this guy was an unique offensive force.

No offense, but if you are saying that McHale belongs because Birsd at #5 took on a #4 and a #2, so he at least had a #28 with him - look at this:

the 69-70, and 72-73 Knicks beat a LA Laker team with #2, #11 and #14 and none of them have made this list yet...in fact one of those Knicks even won an MVP (which by my count only 2 of the last 8 entries have).

so maybe - and this is just my opinion -- Reed is just a little tiny bit better than McHale.

Just a maybe -- just my humble opinion -- its possible that Reed may have been more than a unique offensive force.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:44 PM   #20
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So ah...I still haven't seen your vote yet bro? You've said that people are voting for "90s semi-legends" and are bashing McHale, but you haven't actually voted for anyone yet?

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No offense, but if you are saying that McHale belongs because Birsd at #5 took on a #4 and a #2, so he at least had a #28 with him - look at this:

the 69-70, and 72-73 Knicks beat a LA Laker team with #2, #11 and #14 and none of them have made this list yet...in fact one of those Knicks even won an MVP (which by my count only 2 of the last 8 entries have).

so maybe - and this is just my opinion -- Reed is just a little tiny bit better than McHale.

Just a maybe -- just my humble opinion -- its possible that Reed may have been more than a unique offensive force.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:45 PM   #21
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Both Willis Reed and Cowens are now 10 to 8 spots too low.

I'll take Reed I guess. It really seems like guys who've got MVPs AND led teams to titles should probably be considered before second options and and guys who were never the best player in the league at there position, let alone MVPs of the league. I know it's a little simplistic, but it's not like these guys suck. Those title's and MVPs are defining seperations from some of the last 8 to 10 players.
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So ah...I still haven't seen your vote yet bro? You've said that people are voting for "90s semi-legends" and are bashing McHale, but you haven't actually voted for anyone yet?

Where did I bash McHale? I merely used dhenk's reasoning to support Reed.

My vote is for Reed - as it has been for a while.

...and people are voting for 90's semi-legends. Drex, Pip, Glove - that's what they are.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:51 PM   #23
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I'm changing my vote of the last 2 rounds from Kevin Garnett to Willis Reed.
btw, McHale had like 2 great seasons, never was the best player on his team. Nash belongs there over him.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:53 PM   #24
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No offense, but if you are saying that McHale belongs because Birsd at #5 took on a #4 and a #2, so he at least had a #28 with him - look at this:

the 69-70, and 72-73 Knicks beat a LA Laker team with #2, #11 and #14 and none of them have made this list yet...in fact one of those Knicks even won an MVP (which by my count only 2 of the last 8 entries have).

so maybe - and this is just my opinion -- Reed is just a little tiny bit better than McHale.

Just a maybe -- just my humble opinion -- its possible that Reed may have been more than a unique offensive force.

That`s absolutly possible...
But this is a vote,and I just don`t want to vote for players I never have seen play,or maybe just one,two times...
The numbers I qouted were just to explain what I think about the list in general.So,maybe your humble opinion is right,but I stick with Kevin McHale,cause it`s my vote...
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Both Willis Reed and Cowens are now 10 to 8 spots too low.

I'll take Reed I guess. It really seems like guys who've got MVPs AND led teams to titles should probably be considered before second options and and guys who were never the best player in the league at there position, let alone MVPs of the league. I know it's a little simplistic, but it's not like these guys suck. Those title's and MVPs are defining seperations from some of the last 8 to 10 players.

but that's just your opinion -- you do know that Payton averaged 20/8 in his best seasons.
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:00 PM   #26
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but that's just your opinion -- you do know that Payton averaged 20/8 in his best seasons.
Yeah

21/8 with All-Defensive 1st Defense


How many EVER have done that? 0

I can tell you many who have done Reed
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:02 PM   #27
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I can tell you many who have done Reed

The only ones with Reed's list of accomplishments are already on the list.
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:03 PM   #28
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Jason Kidd! A little bit better than Frazier and Payton and much better than Nash and Iverson.
Much better than Iverson? Calm down.
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Yeah

21/8 with All-Defensive 1st Defense


How many EVER have done that? 0

I can tell you many who have done Reed

Sorry but Willis Reed has an MVP, and 2 finals MVP's. Gary Payton doesn't have either, that has to put him higher.

So My vote is Willis Reed.

On that note Clyde Drexler was nice but he is way too high on this list, no awards, no rings as the leader and only 5 all-NBA selections doesn't make put you this high. A lot of players out there with better resumés.
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Elvin Hayes. Again.

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Hayes joined the NBA with the San Diego Rockets in 1968 and in his rookie year, he scored a career-high 54 points against the Detroit Pistons on November 11 of that year. As a rookie, Hayes led the NBA in scoring with 28.4 points per game, averaged 17.1 rebounds per game, and was named to the NBA All-Rookie Team. Hayes' scoring average is the fifth best all-time for a rookie, and he remains the last rookie to lead the NBA in scoring.

In Hayes' second season, he led the NBA in rebounding, becoming the first player other than Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain to lead the category since 1957 (Chamberlain was injured during much of the season). In Hayes' third season, 1970-71, he scored a career best 28.7 points per game.

In 1972, Hayes was traded to the Baltimore Bullets, where he teamed with Hall-Of-Famer Wes Unseld to form a fierce and dominating frontcourt combination that led the Bullets to 3 NBA Finals (1975, 1978, and 1979), and an NBA title over The Seattle SuperSonics in 1978. He shined brightly, especially in the NBA playoffs. During the Bullets' championship season (1978), he averaged 21.8 points and 12.1 rebounds per game in 21 playoff games. One year later, he set an NBA Finals record for most offensive rebounds in a game (11), in a May 27, 1979 game against the SuperSonics.

On June 8, 1981, Hayes was traded to the Houston Rockets. The "Big E" closed out his career with the Rockets in 1984, who had relocated to Houston. Hayes had a career scoring average of 21.0 points and 12.5 rebounds per game.

In his career with the San Diego/Houston Rockets and the Baltimore/Capital/Washington Bullets, Hayes played 1,303 games over 16 seasons, registering 27,313 points (eighth all-time) and 16,279 rebounds (sixth all-time). Hayes never missed more than two games in any of his 16 seasons in the NBA. In addition to his 1968 scoring title, he led the NBA in rebounding in 1970 and 1974. The 18.1 rebounds per game Hayes averaged in 1974 is the third highest rebounding average of any NBA player since Wilt Chamberlain retired in 1973. Hayes played in twelve straight NBA All-Star Games from 1969 to 1980.

Hayes was named to the NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team during the 1996-97 NBA season and was elected to the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1990.
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