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Old 08-07-2007, 07:53 PM   #1
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Default 9/11, what do you really think happend?

With all the conspiracy theorys and thoughts i just wondered what people on ISH thinks happend. Personally i dont know what to think, alot of the videos out there do have you thinking what really happend, but then think nah.

Anyway, i watched this video and it had me thinking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:54 PM   #2
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Default Re: 9/11, what do you really think happend?

A bunch of crazy Muslims hijacked airplanes and crashed them into American buildings.

The end.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:56 PM   #3
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Default Re: 9/11, what do you really think happend?

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A bunch of crazy Muslims hijacked airplanes and crashed them into American buildings.

The end.

basically...he's right. that's pretty much it...
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:00 PM   #4
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A bunch of crazy Muslims hijacked airplanes and crashed them into American buildings.

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Done and Done.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:05 PM   #5
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A bunch of crazy Muslims hijacked airplanes and crashed them into American buildings.

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sounds good to me... lets talk about something else now
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:12 PM   #6
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**** muslims
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:45 PM   #7
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Default Re: 9/11, what do you really think happend?

Regardless of political belief, anybody who thinks that there was a bomb, explosives, missile, etc or any other massive conspiracy theory is a moron. Period. For f&cks sake, I am as liberal as you can get, but I also have an education when it comes to engineering and physics. These are some research papers written by people who actually have knowledge about these things, and they pretty much put to rest any conspiracy bullsh&t. They are significantly more credible than some retard making a youtube video or spouting off "facts" that they themselves don't understand at all.


Engineers Explain WTC Collapse
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002/0529/news_3-1.html

Report Ties WTC Collapses to Column Failures
http://enr.construction.com/news/bui...ves/040119.asp

IT WAS THE FIRE, CAUSED THE TWIN TOWER COLLAPSE - icivilengineer.com
http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/Fire.html

Simulation for the collapse of WTC after aeroplane impact - Lu XZ., Yang N., Jiang JJ. Structure Engineer, 66(sup.). 2003, 18-22
http://www.luxinzheng.net/publicatio...00012800000300 0369000001&idtype=cvips
Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y.
"Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf)
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370.

Brannigan, F.L.
http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/pdf?v...0sessionmgr109
"WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150.

Clifton, Charles G.
http://www.hera.org.nz/PDF%20Files/E...TC%20Paper.PDF
Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers
HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001.

"Construction and Collapse Factors"
http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/pdf?v...0sessionmgr107
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108.

Corbett, G.P.
http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/pdf?v...0sessionmgr107
"Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135.

"Dissecting the Collapses"
http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detai...0sessionmgr102
Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46.


Gabrielson, T.B., Poese, M.E., & Atchley, A.A.
http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/serv...00011300000100 0045000001&idtype=cvips&prog=normal
"Acoustic and Vibration Background Noise in the Collapsed Structure of the World Trade Center"
The Journal of Acoustical Society of America v. 113, no. 1, (2003): 45-48.


Public Broadcasting Station (PBS)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
Why the Towers Fell: A Companion Website to the Television Documentary.
NOVA (Science Programming On Air and Online)

The Towers Lost and Beyond
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Eduardo Kausel, John E. Fernandez, Tomasz Wierzbicki, Liang Xue, Meg Hendry-Brogan, Ahmed F. Ghoniem, Oral Buyukozturk, Franz-Josef Ulm, Yossi Sheffi

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Old 08-07-2007, 08:47 PM   #8
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:25 PM   #9
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I generally believe it happened the way the media portrayed it. But Im not an idiot, and realize there's a chance it could've been a govt conspiracy.


I saw this underground video. It brought some things to light or maybe tried to trick viewers...whatever. Anyways some architects said that the way the buildings came down seemed like explosives were involved. The Pentagon attack never showed viewers an actual plane, the only real object showed was some other thing that had nothing to do with an airplane. The Osama video where he supposedly admitted involvement was an imposter, and THAT I BELIEVE. He didn't really look like Osama, and what's funny is he was favoring and using the wrong hand. I think Osama is a lefty, the guy in the vid was using his right hand.

But realistically I don't believe our govt would've gone that far. I mean blowing up NY, downing an innocent plane. They could've staged a false attack on the pentagon and called it quits, and it would've been grounds for a war.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:14 PM   #10
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I generally believe it happened the way the media portrayed it. But Im not an idiot, and realize there's a chance it could've been a govt conspiracy.
nope.

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But realistically I don't believe our govt would've gone that far.
psssh yathink?? Do you realize how much heat the Russian Executive is under right now cause of a dozen or so poisoned journalists? And we're expected to believe that this government, which has proven again and again to be not just completely inept, but completely inept at hiding the fact that they're completely inept, murdered three thousand of its own citizens with no paperwork, no snitches, and no evidence left behind? RIGHT.

This government's corrupt but they're subtle about it. They shift power over to the executive. They don't kill 3000 people. Even a small conspiracy is unbelievably hard to hide. A conspiracy of that magnitude? 3000 deaths? Imagine all the people who would need to be involved to pull that off. Now tell me not one of those guys would get a guilty conscience and tattle. There's just no way.

Besides. It would *NOT* take 3000 deaths to invoke a war. He could pin a much smaller accident on the opponent, like the Spanish American war this time last century, hell if he's actually going to go out and kill his own citizens, it wouldn't even take a couple hundred to evoke the exact same fear in the hearts of the people... and wouldn't need to destroy a crucial financial institution to do it.

Don't listen to other people... just use common sense. Most times it's that easy.

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Old 08-07-2007, 11:30 PM   #11
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Default Re: 9/11, what do you really think happend?

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nope.


psssh yathink?? Do you realize how much heat the Russian Executive is under right now cause of a dozen or so poisoned journalists? And we're expected to believe that this government, which has proven again and again to be not just completely inept, but completely inept at hiding the fact that they're completely inept, murdered three thousand of its own citizens with no paperwork, no snitches, and no evidence left behind? RIGHT.

This government's corrupt but they're subtle about it. They shift power over to the executive. They don't kill 3000 people. Even a small conspiracy is unbelievably hard to hide. A conspiracy of that magnitude? 3000 deaths? Imagine all the people who would need to be involved to pull that off. Now tell me not one of those guys would get a guilty conscience and tattle. There's just no way.

Besides. It would *NOT* take 3000 deaths to invoke a war. He could pin a much smaller accident on the opponent, like the Spanish American war this time last century, hell if he's actually going to go out and kill his own citizens, it wouldn't even take a couple hundred to evoke the exact same fear in the hearts of the people... and wouldn't need to destroy a crucial financial institution to do it.

Don't listen to other people... just use common sense. Most times it's that easy.

I agree with everything you had to say. I don't understand how people believe this was conspiracy. Seriously, like you mentioned, it would take a whole lot of people to pull something of this magnitude off, and even then there is ALWAYS a snitch.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:54 PM   #12
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I gotta admit something guys.

Those weren't planes that took down the WTC buildings, those were **** torpedos coming out of my ass after eating 10 burritos at Taco Bell.

If the dog wasn't soooo cute.

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Old 08-07-2007, 11:58 PM   #13
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:00 AM   #14
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what is the starred-out word?

If I told you it would lose all of its cache....but I'm not a fan of cache so I'll tell you anways.

I'm in for teh group!e sexer.

aka I'm in it for the group!e sex.
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